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  1. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Science has no political alliance.
    But scientists do.
    And they aren't above twisting to meet their particular narrative.

    Its like numbers.

    You know, figures never lie, but liars figure?
     
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      Yes we all know that 1+1=3 or more.
       
      Ed Itor, Jul 27, 2020
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  2. Jackie123

    Jackie123 Porno Junky

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    Corporate Lobbying, Filibuster,
    Mandatory Minimum Sentences ,
    Civil Forfeiture, Our ineffective justice system (capitalist based system benfitting the wealthy)
    Voting by mail hysteria, slapp suits, (trump sure loves those)
    our continuing failure against the war on drugs and lack of treatment to addicts, The opiod crisis,
    Failure to properly regulate key industries which encourages reckless behaviour at the expense of the country (Perdue, Wall Street, BP)
    Our relationship with Saudi Arabia, Israel and Russia and Trump's warmness to dictators and "strong men" like Putin, Kim jong un Bolsanaro etc and our imperialistic world view is just a few things that piss me off about politics in this country.

    Discuss!!!
     
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  3. Dearelliot

    Dearelliot Porn Star

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    Well Trump lies, his figures lie, his numbers lie, The man lies constantly,
     
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  4. ace's n 8's

    ace's n 8's Porn Star

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    You sure seem to be pissed off about a lot of things....

    The question is though, how long have these specific issues been getting under your crawl?, as not one of these issues have started under the Trump presidency......

    Yet still you use Trumps name a couple of times during this rant of yours....tourist.
     
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    2. Jackie123
      Pick a better country as an example than the go to, epicly mismanaged ones. Countries that embrace socialism aren't Venezuela. Ask any American if their life has gotten better being in Europe.
       
      Jackie123, Jul 27, 2020
    3. ace's n 8's
      That's fantastic.

      Ireland population....4.904 million...

      U.S. population....328.2 million

      Comparing Ireland to the U.S. is a constant fools errand.

      Vastly different countries, vastly difficult to compare.
       
      ace's n 8's, Jul 27, 2020
    4. ace's n 8's
      Pick a country for yourself, I aint going to do it for you....I'm quite happy here, that's why I'm fighting to keep it as intended.
       
      ace's n 8's, Jul 27, 2020
    5. Jackie123
      "Comparing Ireland to the U.S. is a constant fools errand."

      Indeed. However, it's also a fools errand to bring up countries like Venezuela whenever universal health care comes up in the conversation.
       
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      No it's not...because I didn't.

      You fail to have a coherent representation of the U.S., the U.S. is not based on a government sanctioned community, it's based upon pure individualism.

      Damn near $27 trillion in debt as a nation, a $4 trillion annual budget, entitlements eating up mandatory spending, because of community healthcare measures.

      Trump just signed and EO to lower drug prices that should have been done years ago.
       
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  5. ace's n 8's

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    Looky here now.

    Just another glaring example of the leftists radical agenda.

    Oregon/Idaho Border Relocation Will Be on November Ballot For Wallowa County

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    WALLOWA COUNTY - A movement called Move Oregon’s Border for a Greater Idaho recently announced that they have collected enough signatures to put their ballot initiative on the November 2020 ballot in Wallowa County, Oregon. The movement wants to move the Oregon/Idaho border to make rural Oregon counties a part of Idaho. The campaign will continue collecting signatures in case an unusually large number of signatures are determined to be invalid.

    Mike McCarter said, “Wallowa County is unique because people were willing to put a lot of time into building a team who were willing to go out despite the lockdown and the coronavirus. In Jefferson, Union, and Douglas Counties, we’ve surpassed half our goal, but we don’t know if we will reach our goal, which is the required number plus 30% extra to account for invalid signatures by August 5th. Other counties are farther behind, so we will need a federal injunction to get on the ballot in most of those counties. This lockdown has hurt our ability to collect signatures.”

    He continued, “A special case is Sherman County, which only requires 60 signatures. We hope some volunteer will knock that one out. I encourage everyone to download a petition from www.GreaterIdaho.org and collect signatures even in the counties that have fallen behind schedule, because there is a good chance that the required number will be reduced drastically, and the deadline delayed. Approval to circulate a petition in Malheur County was only awarded two weeks ago, but we expect to have 40% of the requirement in hand by the end of today.”

    Move Oregon’s Border filed a federal lawsuit on June 30, and was assigned a judge who, in another case for another organization, required the state to reduce signature requirements and delay the deadline. U.S. District Judge Michael J. McShane’s response to Move Oregon’s Border’s request for an injunction is expected soon.

    “We want to move the border because the political atmosphere in Oregon is getting too intense. We’ve seen political violence in Portland and Eugene this year and it could get worse. Instead of fighting, Oregon could let citizens in each region of the state choose which state’s governance is more suitable to them. I believe eastern and southern Oregon will agree that Idaho’s governance is better suited to rural counties than Oregon’s is. Combining all taxes together, the average Idahoan paid $1753 less in taxes per year than the average Oregonian in 2018.”

    https://www.bigcountrynewsconnectio...cle_3f6aeb76-c948-11ea-9828-87e0189ff0c2.html

    ROSEBURG, Ore. - Voters in Douglas and Josephine county may be asked whether to leave the state of Oregon - and join Idaho instead.

    Petition drives are in progress in both southern Oregon counties to put the question on the ballot.

    "State borders are typically relocated by an interstate compact between two state legislatures, when approved by Congress. The last time this process was followed was August 25, 1961, when the state border between Minnesota and North Dakota was relocated," according to a press release posted on the Move Oregon's Border for a Greater Idaho Facebook page.

    Mike McCarter of La Pine is one of the proponents for the Greater Idaho movement.

    “Rural counties have become increasingly outraged by laws coming out of the Oregon Legislature that threaten our livelihoods, our industries, our wallet, our gun rights, and our values," he said. "We tried voting those legislators out but rural Oregon is outnumbered and our voices are now ignored. This is our last resort.”

    Fellow petitioner Valerie Gottschalk of Selma said efforts to recall Gov. Kate Brown suggest Greater Idaho has an audience in rural Oregon.

    “I expect this movement to grow rapidly, having seen the response to the 'Recall Kate' petition circulated last year. People here would prefer Idaho's conservative governance to the progressive/liberal current Oregon governance," she said.. "Every time I look at the Facebook group Greater Idaho, the group has gotten bigger. And our Facebook poll got 84% in favor out of 1300 polled.”

    The proposal also seeks "that portion of Wasco County that is east of the Deschutes River, plus the City of Maupin"; "all of Jefferson County except Deschutes National Forest and Warm Springs Indian Reservation"; and "Terrebonne, Redmond, Alfalfa, southeastern Deschutes County, Three Rivers (east of Deschutes River), and La Pine."

    In California, Greater Idaho seeks to obtain Del Norte, Siskiyou, Shasta, Tehama, Modoc and Lassen counties and "tiny portions of northern Butte and northern Plumas."

    https://kval.com/news/local/greater...t-rural-oregon-counties-to-join-the-gem-state
     
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    2. ace's n 8's
      Among massive deregulation efforts from the importation of counties that are heavily regulated like a mother fucker.
       
      ace's n 8's, Jul 25, 2020
    3. shootersa
      @FuntimeFla
      Idaho already has access to a seaport.
      One summer we ran our boat from Portland all the way into Idaho on the Columbia river.
      We shared locks with barges headed for Astoria.
       
      shootersa, Jul 25, 2020
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    4. FuntimeFla
      Not the same thing Shooter.
       
      FuntimeFla, Jul 25, 2020
    5. shootersa
      Shooter thinks you should check that. Many of the ships we mingled with on the Columbia were ocean going. Mainly Japanese flagged houling logs to Japan.

      Interesting note: some of those ships actually processed raw logs into building lumber as they made their way back to Japan.
       
      shootersa, Jul 25, 2020
    6. ace's n 8's
      Damn, if that aint efficiency, I dont know what is shootersa
       
      ace's n 8's, Jul 25, 2020
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  6. ace's n 8's

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    Southern and Eastern Oregon, and Northernmost California Can Become a Part of Idaho

    This proposal is different from secession because it is simply a shift in borders that does not affect the balance of power in the US Senate.

    It does not create a new state or increase the number of states. Borders between states have been relocatedor redefined many times in US history.

    If a deal were made that two state legislatures pass, a border change would almost certainly become a reality. According to a peer-reviewed law journal, “Prior to 1921, 36 compacts between states were put into effect with the consent of Congress; virtually all of these settled boundaries between contiguous states.”



    See link: https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?&article=1544&context=penn_law_reviewThe most recent example was land transferred from Minnesota to North Dakota in 1961. www.revisor.mn.gov/laws/1961/0/Session+Law/Chapter/236/p

    https://www.greateridaho.org/the_downloads/2019/main/Greater_Idaho_Proposal.pdf
     
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  8. FuntimeFla

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    Now to do something similar in Illinois and upstate NY as well, Maybe Greater Pa !
     
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  9. FuntimeFla

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    Hearing Trump Speak, and reading what the media reports him as saying is two different things. Trump doesn't Lie, the Media lies with its reporting of Trump! Just like it lied about Nick Sandmann, the McCloskeys, and just about every other story they write!
     
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  10. Rixer

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    Trump doesn't lie. :facepalm:
    Oh good grief, man. I know you love the Donald but every politican lies.
     
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  11. ace's n 8's

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    BULLSHIT... you speak nothing of truth...there aint no state-run leftist media...Sandmann is gonna clean house with his lawsuit., word on the streets is, it could be as high as $1 Billion.
     
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  12. ace's n 8's

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    Trumps not a politician, if he was, the establishment wouldn't being probing Trump's every available orifice for some more gotcha bastard moments.
     
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      They usually don't have to search too far.
       
      Rixer, Jul 25, 2020
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  13. shootersa

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    No further than one of their "unidentified source familiar with the situation".

    Easiest thing ever.
     
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      Rather a catchy clause eh?...
       
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  14. FuntimeFla

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    The only lying I see going on around here are all the people pointing fingers and crying "racism" !
     
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  15. Dearelliot

    Dearelliot Porn Star

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    the president lies consistently. Many politicians lie but no president in modern times has lied the way trump lies to the people.
     
    1. FuntimeFla
      According to what you read in the media, or maybe in your case watch on TV. But if you ever actually heard him in in entirety you would know better.
       
      FuntimeFla, Jul 25, 2020
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      That's your opinion, but it isn't correct.
       
      Dearelliot, Jul 25, 2020
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  16. ace's n 8's

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      My money's on no they don't since it goes against their agenda. But I'm also willing to bet that like any other fact that contradicts their agenda. First they will try to disprove it. Then if that doesn't work they will come up with something to discredit those that created the report. Probably finding some statement or something a researcher said to label as racist, sexist, homophobic, or all of the above. They then can say that's only a report put out by a bunch of bigots that want children to get sick and die especially said children they are supposedly bigoted against.
       
      Hellcat41979, Jul 25, 2020
    2. ace's n 8's
      Reasonable.
       
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  17. ace's n 8's

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    Walkaway' Founder on Why Democrats No Longer Represent Him

     
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  18. Dearelliot

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    Wonder where he's going to go? Hey considering the guys options. Maybe out the country...I doubt it.
    "You cant make this stuff up"
     
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    1. shootersa
      Maybe he and rear admiral motherfucker can migrate to some country they like better. You know, better than a "shithole country run by a mad dictator".
       
      shootersa, Sep 18, 2020
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  19. ace's n 8's

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    ‘Hillbilly Brigade’ takes matters into their own hands amid Ore. wildfires

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    Nicole West stands for a portrait with her dog Oink on a bulldozer during the aftermath of the Riverside Fire near Molalla, Oregon, September 16, 2020. (REUTERS/Shannon Stapleton)

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    UPDATED 6:15 PM PT – Thursday, September 17, 2020

    A group of Oregon citizens took matters into their own hands this week to protect their homes and livelihoods from raging wildfires. Over the past few days, the group called the “Hillbilly Brigade” took to the forests near the city of Molalla, Oregon to clean up fallen trees and implement other fire prevention measures.

    “We are building fire lines, putting out the fires so they don’t crawl back up this way,” explained member Nicole West.

    According to the volunteers, Oregon’s Democrat leaders have failed to protect citizens from the wildfire threat.

    “So everybody stayed up here, even though the sheriffs and everyone told us we needed to evacuate,” stated West. “We all stayed, worked and fought the fire.


    The “Hillbilly Brigade” has said their actions show the wildfires could have been prevented if the state government wanted to.

    “When the government bailed, we all stayed,” added West. “…Other than that, it would have been completely out of control.”
     
    1. Hellcat41979
      Want a bet the government fines them for doing this? Since of course we can't have the peasants making the government look bad unless it's run by a Republican.
       
      Hellcat41979, Sep 18, 2020
    2. ace's n 8's
      I'm not taking that bet....I'm sure the phone is ringing off the hook from the Governor at the offices of the State level EPA,
       
      ace's n 8's, Sep 18, 2020
    3. Hellcat41979
      Yeah probably complaining about some endangered species being harassed that would have ended up killed by the fire anyway.
       
      Hellcat41979, Sep 18, 2020
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  20. shootersa

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    Interesting.
    It seems that while fires have been raging in Washington, Oregon, and California, Idaho hasn't had that bad a fire season.
    Another incentive for western Washington, Oregon, and Northern California to join Idaho.
    A more common sense approach to wildfires.
     
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