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  1. Passionman1980

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    As we all know about the hurricanes and earthquake over the last few days i wanna ask....are we only gonna start making sufficient changes after something much more catastrophic happens ?
     
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      Prolly not. We’re phuked.
       
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    The rest of the world is already doing things. But here in the US many of our politicians and conservatives are still spreading lies to create confusion and doubt when there really isn't any. And I am sure you will see that shortly.

    Such as people trying to claim these hurricanes can't be the result of global warming/climate change because there were deadly hurricanes in the early 1900's before burning fossil fuels created the amounts of CO2 we have now.

    And they are right. We have always had extreme weather events. That is nothing new. But to contend that global warming/climate change is not fueling these hurricanes they have to believe proven liars worried about their profits instead of thousands of scientists all over the world that have been studying global warming/climate change for decades and started predicting events like what we are seeing now more than 20 years ago.

    But what really gets me about people trying to contend we have always had extreme weather events is what part of "record" don't you fucking understand? My God the word record is so common now in association with extreme weather events it looks like any fucking idiot could see it and understand we are already being impacted by global warming/climate change.

    Which also exposes another great lie of conservatism as it is preached and practiced in this country. Its the conservatives that are supposed to be good with numbers and always concerned with cost of things. And yet they don't bat an eye at the hundreds of billions of dollars just from Harvey alone with Irma getting ready to cost us hundreds of billions more.

    And its so easy now to overlook what would be the big news story if these hurricanes weren't tearing us up. And that is the wild fires out here in the west, We don't even have a fire close to us and yet if I step outside the smoke from all the other fires is so thick I can see it moving and it has cut visibility by 2/3rds.

    I cannot even fathom how people can deny something that is happening right before their very eyes and they can see for themselves.
     
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      Climate Science is over 150 years old. As is the scientific proof that we are driving global warming. There is nothing new to it except the evidence is becoming more robust and the models more accurate. It is basic physics that increasing CO2 in a closed system, which the Earth is, will warm things up/
       
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    Thank you for your opinion sir and a very well wrote,honest and factual opinion it was too.
    The way i always look at things and try to retrieve the facts is through science,science gives us the answers,the facts about everything....where would we be without science ???
    From medicine and technology to the human body and the universe.
    And what gets me is 'as you say' the answer is staring us right in the face,when i say to my family and friends about the planets condition in a hundred years time they look at me as if im crazy,its like ppl struggle to look that far ahead,its to selfish to think 'well it dont effect me now' what about the future generations,our kids kids,our kids,kids,kids future and so on.
    I dont think ppl can grasp the scale of the icebergs either,the mass and speed of which they are melting is unbelievable,lets just hope that we dont get past that point of no return,where the damage is done and we cant do f all about it.
     
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    I think one of the advantages I have is I have spent most my whole life outside and in nature and even before I even heard the term "global warming" more than 30 years ago I was looking around and thinking to myself something is wrong here. Everything seems to be changing. And I mean right down to the wind. I would walk outside and expect to feel the breeze on my face coming straight out of the west like it always did and instead it was coming out of the south west. And still is. Our winters also changed. We could always count on brutal winters where the temperatures would fall below zero and stay there for weeks. And I am talking temperatures that once in awhile would hit -50.

    And then I began to notice that our winters were downright mild compared to what they used to be and our temperatures hardly fell below zero anymore. Which I admit I thought was a pretty good deal at first. But then when I was in the mountains it seemed like the Pine Beetles were killing a lot more trees than they used to. And then they were killing whole swaths of timber. And then nearly whole forests. We had an elk camp in the same place for close to 30 years which we paid for ourselves the hard way learning it one year and one boot track at a time until we knew all the game trails and all the places Elk tended to be. And the Pine Beetles destroyed that country so bad the dead fall trees made that whole country literally impassable. Even the Elk couldn't get through whole sections of it.

    Which actually all made perfect sense. We have always had Pine Beetles killing trees and some years would be worse than others. Until the temperatures fell below zero for more than a week. Because when that happened it would kill off most the Pine Beetles and give the trees a break. But once the winters turned more mild there was nothing to kill them off and nothing to stop them.

    And the same thing happened all over the west which is why all the wild fires are getting so bad. There are literally mountains of dead trees just waiting for a spark and when they get that spark there is more fuel for fires than the firefighters can control. They can't even put the fires out anymore. The best they can do is try and protect houses, and towns.

    That's why I often point out to global warming/climate change deniers I get that they are so self centered and selfish that they could give a shit less about future generations even their own decedents. But damn just take a look around because global warming/climate change is already impacting you. It is hurting us right now and is just going to get worse.

    And here's another really ironic example. During Harvey lots of fake news started to spread around the internet and one of them was what some were claiming was a picture of the Houston Airport that showed planes sitting in water that was clear up to their wings. And what that photo really is is a photo shopped image created to show what New York airports would look like after the predicted sea level rises.

    It is all right there for anyone to see for themselves. All they have to do is pull their heads out of their asses and take a look around.
     
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    I think there is a substansial amount of research going into controling the weather HARPP
     
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    Which I would predict could actually get us all killed quicker. I can no longer even count all the times someone came up with an idea to try and control nature and instead nature broke off their great idea and just shoved up their asses.

    In fact John Fire Lame Deer in his book Lame Deer, Seeker of Visions that from the first day Columbus landed until this very day the way Native Americans know we are literally insane is the idea that we can control nature instead of being part of it. And I have always thought they are right about that.
     
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      Who knows, i dont think it is something that you can do a little sample test on. To the best of my knowledge the dutch have the largest ionic facility.
       
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    climate change is serious threat, we produce so much carbon emissions that changes our climate, hence wildfires and hurricanes that is happening in our country or outside USA. Trump denied the climate change was real but he said was a Chinese hoax. it's not. we do get twisters in areas that is places where extremes meet, hot air and cold air meet. climate change are caused by man-made things that causes carbon dioxide and can create greenhouse gases that could block out sun or cause effect of global warming which is already in progress. most of our polar ice caps are almost gone. huge chunks already broken off separately since 1990s. scientists predict that we will no longer have ice caps by late as year 2230 or more. which is pretty grim.. considering most of our water is made out of salt that comes from our polar ice caps.
     
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      Ja but there are less seals.
       
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    considering most of our water is made out of salt that comes from our polar ice caps.

    Seriously DUDE, you need to work on getting that GED.
     
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      brah.
       
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    Yep right on cue. Mention global warming/climate change and the deniers show up pretending that its Al Gore, not thousands of scientists all over the world that have been studying human caused global warming for decades that have reached the scientific consensus.

    Political hackery and stupid ignorance at its finest. Human caused global warming/climate doesn't have a fucking thing to do with Al Gore and everything to do with science.
     
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    The last big "core study" on global warming also was a cause for alarm.

    Remember the "Greenland Ice Core" studies?

    Completely 100% debunked. Trash science.
     
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    They've conveniently forgotten the scientists were moving the temperature sensors to warmer places because the scientists weren't
    getting the readings they wanted. They've forgotten about the exposed emails. but hey! one or two hurricanes, and it's full on global warming!!!
     
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      EXACTLY
       
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    This is why i thought long and hard about posting this thread,i didn't want it to turn into a massive argument or bitching match,it was more to educate ppl who seems to think that the planet will last forever or humans will.
    I do wonder if it is arrogance or ppl really are plain stupid !!!
    We as a species have been on the planet for the shortest amount of time but have made the biggest impact on it.
     
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      Um mm, plain stupid, have you read some of the posts? Fucking stupid is more realistic
       
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    Well that worked out well. We're educated now.
     
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    They say you learn something new everyday dont they ??? Now make sure you dont leave the tap running whilst you brush your teeth !!!
     
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    Yepper because God only made the world about 5 thousand years ago....
     
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      Sarcasm doesn't work very well with this one...
       
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      Trump guided the meteor that took out the dinosaurs, as a test run for ridding the country of Africa's americans and Mexicans.
       
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