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  1. Dearelliot

    Dearelliot Porn Star

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    Any pardon whether his own or with Biden pardoning him for federal offenses would leave the country with a bad taste, not knowing if or the extent of any crimes he may have committed. He's been accused and tried by the press and media, and to now close the book without presenting evidence and witnesses, would in effect be a total exoneration for Trump to the millions of Americans who believe him.

    Besides the man deserves his day in court to prove his innocence
    A Trump pardon, by himself or anyone wouldn't in any way convince Trump people that he was guilty of anything. They'd consider that a prudent business decision.
    In Nixon's case he just went away, and no one expects Trump to shut up and disappear.
     
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      I'm worried about Biden not wanting to anger the Trump constituency in a mistaken belief that they or Trump will appreciate that, and as Ford did, thinking it's what is best for America
      Not to see a former president in prison
       
      Dearelliot, Nov 28, 2020
    3. anon_de_plume
      Well, while I get your point, it would probably do more to piss off the rest of the people. Besides, Biden has expressed opinions that indicateto me that he wouldn't consider pardoning him.

      Either way, Trump has already been impeached, that won't be erased. Pardons are not allowed in cases of impeachment.
       
      anon_de_plume, Nov 28, 2020
    4. Dearelliot
      If they can find the evidence I feel most of us would rather see Trump in court.
       
      Dearelliot, Nov 28, 2020
    5. anon_de_plume
      I don't think we need to work, a new York prosecutor said she has 27 indictments waiting to be issued on January 21st, and they're state charges which cannot be pardoned!
       
      anon_de_plume, Nov 28, 2020
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    6. stumbler
      Sorry I didn't catch this one earlier because Biden is just really damned interesting about this. The Biden campaign was always about 3 steps ahead of Trump. And so before the election and before they could even make a campaign issue out of it Biden went on the record saying he would not try to prosecute Trump.

      That took Trump's scare tactic away from him that Biden intended to persecute him and pissed off progressive/liberal/Democrats from coast to coast.

      But none of them listened to what Biden really said which was HE wouldn't prosecute Trump. And now after the election Biden has clarified what he meant was he would not try to use the DOJ as his own personal lawyers like Trump did. So he really doesn't want to know who the DOJ is investigating. That is their business.

      And let the chips fall where they may.
       
      stumbler, Nov 28, 2020
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  2. ace's n 8's

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    For the past four years you yo-yo's have been searching high and low for a ''TRUMP CRIME''...found nothing....

    So, what makes a convincing argument for the Trump policy supporters to fall right in line with the leftists and their own illegitimate attempts of searching for a crime?

    I doubt you will answer that question with any reasonable argument...so you'll be dismissed.
     
  3. Dearelliot

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    I thinks the odds are Trump will pardon himself and family. Or as Anon said have Pence do it but if he doesn't, I think Biden will.
    You ask, What would convince Trump people to join with the rest of America to search for a crime. My point exactly,. pardoning Trump and no investigation would in effect prove to Trump people his innocence
    RE the Search and found nothing:
    I realize it's convenient to ignore executive privilege and that he is president and virtually untouchable in office, that questioning Trump people who wouldn't answer, the real test will come after January 20th.
    would be interesting Trump and all of those people around him under oath
    And besides Trump will probably demand a full investigation into crimes he's accused of, as I'm sure he wants to clear his name
     
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  4. Dearelliot

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    What in the world is this Dismissed silliness? Do you and shooter go around your house dressed up in a Gen MacArthur suit?
     
  5. Dearelliot

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    Anyway happy thanksgiving
     
  6. stumbler

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    Well let's see here. Why would Trump want to pardon himself? Because he is "Individual one" in the crimes that sent Michael Cohen to prison for one thing.

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    And the only reason Robert Mueller didn't charge Trump with perjury and obstruction of justice is because of an outdated and corrupt memo designed to protect Republican presidents from being charged with crimes while in office.
     
  7. ace's n 8's

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    Still drumming up and relying on the old propaganda tactics?

    Ya know....we have 2 tables full of pastries... pies...2 hams...1 turkey that looks so damn sexy and delicious with various side dishes, and it's 2:02 p.m., then my wife is expecting me to wait until 4:00 to eat.

    this is mother fuckin' torture.
     
  8. Randy Johnson1

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    Here is your "reasonable argument:"
    Do you and shooter go around your house dressed up in a Gen MacArthur suit?
     
  9. Dearelliot

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    Yes you are right I didn't make myself clear:

    This was my response to his argument
    The MacArthur thought was in response to "dismissed"


     
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  10. ace's n 8's

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    stop stalling kid....shit or get out da shithouse.
     
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    Jeez Louise....Who keeps posting these ridiculous posts, Fuckin' A!
     
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    It is either this or Ghislaine is next for a pardon!

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  13. stumbler

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    So what do you think guys? Will Trump pardon himself? And do you believe he can pardon himself and should pardon himself and his family members?

    Is that the United States of America you believe in?
     
  14. stumbler

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    No? Ya think.

    Trump mulls firing Bill Barr for contradicting him on election fraud: report


    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/tr...r-contradicting-him-on-election-fraud-report/
     
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    Whatever...
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    1. anon_de_plume
      You can remove your fingers from you ears now!
       
      anon_de_plume, Dec 3, 2020
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      Hahaha - again the Troll answers with... nothing.

      Oh wait - what's that sound: Oh...

      [​IMG]

      Later, bitch.
       
      latecomer91364, Dec 3, 2020
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      Blissful irony.
       
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  16. stumbler

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    Put your Maxi Pad on adhesive side up again didn't you Clarise? That always makes you so cranky,
     
  17. ace's n 8's

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    Lt. Gen. Flynn says China backs Democrat Party’s election efforts

    According to Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, the Chinese Communist Party is supporting the Democrat Party’s effort to steal the election from President Trump.

    In an interview Sunday, Flynn said common warfare tactics used by the Chinese military, namely information control and manipulation, have been employed in this election. He noted this is part of Mainland China’s advancing of its plan to become the only superpower in the world.

    In order to achieve that, Flynn said Beijing would need to remove President Trump.

    “Their sort of plan was by about the middle of this century that we are in right now and I believe during the last 2016 election when they didn’t get the candidate that they needed and the kind of ideology that they saw American moving toward, they were not going to allow 2020 to happen,” he explained.

    Flynn said he believes the theft of mail-in ballots and the software inconsistencies with Dominion voting machines are evidence of widespread fraud, but that the President will ultimately be victorious
     
  18. stumbler

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    Now you have to appreciate the extent the PR hacks are having to go here to push Trump's treason and sedition. Trot out what Mike Flynn has to say. Which just begs the question "hey that Flynn guy. Isn't he the confessed liar that just confessed to those rimes and many more he committed when he got a pardon from Trump"? Great source there. Fucking laughable.

    And this is going to be fun to see which wins out. Trump's advisors or his mental illness? It is just another form of political suicide for Trump to fire Bill Barr now and that is what all his advisors and family members are telling him. Another disaster in the waiting that could really end Trump's political ambitions. But Trump is literally and clinically mentally ill and cannot grasp the consequences of his own actions and usually only reacts out of fear and rage. And Barr essentially just called Trump the biggest loser and I don't think he can tolerate that.

    So while I could be wrong I am betting Trump will fire Barr before he leaves office.

    Advisers Are Begging ‘Livid’ Trump Not to Fire Bill Barr, Says Report

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...nt-not-to-fire-bill-barr-says-report?ref=home
     
  19. stumbler

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    Looks to me like Barr is just asking for it now and telling Trump to just kiss his fat saggy shit stained ass. This looks like a big one to me.

    Donald Trump’s eyes and ears at the Justice Department banned from the building: report

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/do...e-department-banned-from-the-building-report/
     
  20. stumbler

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    Now this could be a very serious problem. When Trump pardoned Flynn he tried to pardon him from any and all crimes connected to the Mueller investigation and his campaign. As many legal experts pointed out that was a crime in and of itself because Trump is using his pardon power to try to continue buying Flynn's silence and obstruct justice. But its looking like it is already falling apart.

    Which is not good because Flynn has shown he's a very nervous man and if Trump can't protect him he's likely to run to those who can and cooperate.

    Federal judge says Trump pardon of Michael Flynn may have been ‘too broad’: report

    *Flynn is a traitor to the United States of America.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/fe...michael-flynn-may-have-been-too-broad-report/