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  1. freethinker

    freethinker Pervy Bear

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    2. tenguy
      And neither did the millions of people who voted for Trump. Get it right, stay on topic and don’t respond with diversion, and we might be able to have a dialog.
       
      tenguy, Jan 12, 2021
    3. freethinker
      I didn't say anything about the millions of others who voted for ol' bonespurs. You quit trying to create a diversion.
       
      freethinker, Jan 12, 2021
    4. tenguy
      But I did and you replied to that post.
       
      tenguy, Jan 12, 2021
    5. freethinker
      And I am unwatching this one.
       
      freethinker, Jan 12, 2021
    6. tenguy
      Best way to avoid facing your error. Typical.
       
      tenguy, Jan 12, 2021
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  2. silkythighs

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    The united states is supposed to be the leader of the free world. Not because of our economic and military preeminence. But because of what this country stands for and what it represents.

    Antonin Scalia - On American Exceptionalism



     
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      I thought you didnt approve of American exceptionalism? Unless you can use it to bash America.
       
      deleted user 555 768, Jan 11, 2021
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  3. Rixer

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    Why should we care what they're bitching about, we can't control that. Their thoughts and views have zero effect on the USA. A homeless, drug addled and drunken bum on skid row in Detroit has more leverage than a foreigner. ;)
     
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    1. freethinker
      Really? Seems Putin has had a large effect on the orange man. As has Kim, Duarte, well, any despot he'd like to emulate.
       
      freethinker, Jan 11, 2021
    2. Chief Hu
      But who is bringing peace to the middle east?
       
      Chief Hu, Jan 11, 2021
    3. shootersa
      Why, didn't you hear?
      Obama did that.
       
      shootersa, Jan 12, 2021
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  4. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    So happy that Scalia’s speech was brought up, because it was spot on. The very last paragraphs so perfectly explains why we have two separate legislative bodies, elected in different ways, but with equal power, no other country has this.

     
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  5. BigSuzyB

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    I don’t have a problem with the foreigners talking about what happened at their capital.
    As far as foreigners go, Americans aren’t all that bad.
     
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    (Not sure how that happenred... lol)


     
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      Love talk talk!

      ts
       
      thinskin, Jan 13, 2021
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  7. deleted user 555 768

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    Foreigners can say what they want about America, this is a free country after all,

    ...its just their opinion doesnt come from the experience of being born and raised in America,
    so the opinion cant be as definitive as an Americans....My history is not theirs and they cant understand the American Experience the way I do....
    ....shall I start talking about life in Europe and judging their events, of course not, last I learned about Europe was WWII, ...I'm a little behind the European times, rebuilt I heard!


    And the title ...it wasnt a coup, MSM calls it a riot, calm down and stop inciting
     
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    2. freethinker
      No one. I made the statement and I stand by it. You are the only one trying to get me to change it. You figure it out.
       
      freethinker, Jan 12, 2021
    3. tenguy
      Wrong thread, ‘scusa me.
       
      tenguy, Jan 12, 2021
    4. freethinker
      You must be smoking something.

      I have unwatched this post. Have fun.
       
      freethinker, Jan 12, 2021
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      Bet ya didnt, and I'm always smokin' something, I'm a pot head ya know :cool1:
       
      deleted user 555 768, Jan 12, 2021
    6. shootersa
      So the key question, without diverting or personal insults or propaganda is, how far do we take the punishment for That Trump thing?
      Obviously, those who invaded the capitol, rioted, assaulted, and/or looted should be hunted down and charged.
      Trump? Well, what did he do? Point to his speech, or his actions, and identify what was illegal or wrong about it. You know, factually.
      Trump supporters? At the rally who did not participate in violence? Those who voted for him?
      How about legislators who telegraphed their intent to vote to challenge the Presidential election outcome? What crime did they commit, what shall we do with them? And why?

      And what penalty? Criminal charges we understand, but if one did not commit any crime, do we have the need or even the right to pursue them otherwise? Blacklist? Remove their social media accounts? demonize? Perhaps we could remove their right to vote?

      Shooters take is that this has become a witch hunt.
       
      shootersa, Jan 12, 2021
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  8. thinskin

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    From foriegner's point of view.......first we had Guiliani's phone call to Tuberville only Rudi cannot dial the correct number.....



    Then we had the Trump insurrection speech............



    Then people stormed the Capitol and people started dying........



    The sequence of events is undeniable but shitter and the two faced twat would have you believe such a sequence of events were completely unrelated.:rolleyes:

    Thinskin
     
    1. tenguy
      What? Who said they were unrelated? They most certainly were related, it’s the degree of which that is in question.

      Rudy is Rudy, nuf said. But please show me exactly where Trump said, go assault the Capitol.
       
      tenguy, Jan 13, 2021
    2. thinskin
      You are not the two faced twat btw but you are making a play for the position!

      Listen to the speech when he exorts the crowd to march on the Capitol and says he will be with them!

      I am sure an apologist will find all sorts of hidden meanings but let's stick to the transcript!

      ts
       
      thinskin, Jan 13, 2021
    3. tenguy
      What he said was “Let’s all walk over to the Capitol together, you can protest peacefully, I’m with you”. Or words to that effect, I’ll copy the exact words from the transcript if you want.
       
      tenguy, Jan 13, 2021
    4. thinskin
      Not.....you can protest peacefully!!

      ts
       
      thinskin, Jan 14, 2021
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  9. Chief Hu

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    Foreigners have a place. It is usually in line with their hands out.
    For some reason they seem to think they know more about what is going on than the people who are living here.
     
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      I haven't seen many members from Afghanistan or Israel here.
       
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    Most foreigners that comment in Politics amount to America hate and starting arguments among the forum, they insult, lie, and deliberately antagonize others,

    they hide behind a pleasant projection but their true heart is black ...they should keep their hateful opinions to themselves or keep it in their own country
     
    1. BigSuzyB
      Where are these forum bullies. Where are these American hate threads. The vitriol on this international forum comes from foreigners from the USA.
      Members here should make special allowances for foreigners from the USA who just want to call their fellow countrymen names and stuff.
       
      BigSuzyB, Jan 13, 2021
    2. deleted user 555 768
      I'm imagining it right...isnt your visa expired?
       
      deleted user 555 768, Jan 13, 2021
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      It's paranoia from the doobie Shy.
       
      1 Toy Maker, Jan 13, 2021
    4. BigSuzyB
      We're not in Kansas anymore.
       
      BigSuzyB, Jan 13, 2021
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      Wrote somethin, why waste my time
       
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    A foreigner putting down America is ...expected...but an American who does nothing but use the American Political situation to bash their own country ...Mafia has a term for that...a Rat!


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  13. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    The exact words from his speech:

    "We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."
     
    1. shootersa
      Funny how this is the first time thats been posted here (or anywhere) rather than the "we have to fight......" quote.
       
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      Did democrats even pay attention?
       
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    3. shootersa
      Doesn't fit their agenda
       
      shootersa, Jan 14, 2021
    4. ace's n 8's
      No...I posted that in this forum somewhere..maybe even twice...damn sure not hearing it in MSM.

      Even here on local T.V. news sources, they start the tape at that very section of the audio..."We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building ...then stop the tape here...to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."
       
      ace's n 8's, Jan 14, 2021
    5. BigSuzyB
      Americans peacefully and patriotically marched to the poling booth on November third.
      Get over it.
       
      BigSuzyB, Jan 15, 2021
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    No body has been "bashing" America. The repukes who enabled Trump's lies about election fraud have soiled themselves and the country. Even a week away from Biden's inauguration, many repukes are still pushing baseless voter fraud. Trump himself on Jan 6th called Biden's election illegitimate. The peaceful transfer of power is a hallmark of American democracy, Trump is the first president to ever openly attempt a coup against this country.

    Be proud repukes, be proud!
     
    1. tenguy
      Time will tell
       
      tenguy, Jan 13, 2021
    2. shootersa
      "openly attempt a coup against this country."
      Well, it would seem that time is making a liar out of thighs.
       
      shootersa, Jan 15, 2021
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    Voices heard about what exactly? Congress was certifying the rightful slate of electors. :stop: the nonsense.
     
    1. tenguy
      Your opinion is your right. The alleged words giving the crowd orders to assault the Capitol never happened.
       
      tenguy, Jan 13, 2021
    2. tenguy
      Sorry ST, misread your post.

      The voices were to underscore the belief that the electoral votes from disputed states not be counted. Whether the disputes were valid or not is a moot point.
       
      tenguy, Jan 13, 2021
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      As is mine
       
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    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Well it looks like foreigners are critiquing Twitter, Facebook and Google on the way they took Trumps access away. Merkel said the action was problematic, UK’s Health Sec’y Hancock and EU commissioner Breton, both expressed concern that the CEO of a tech firm can pull the plug on the POTUS’s loudspeaker without checks and balance is perplexing.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/11/ger...lematic-trump-ban.html?recirc=taboolainternal
     
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      45 states are suing to have them broken up as we speak. Shirley you’ve heard?
       
      BigSuzyB, Jan 16, 2021
    3. BigSuzyB
      I only bring Trump into this because before Trump was upset by them nobody cared.
      I cared. I don’t have a Facebook , Twitter or Amazon Account.
       
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    4. ace's n 8's
      So what...Congress will not break it up.. nor will the Courts, they're scared of them.

      A dog and pony show.
       
      ace's n 8's, Jan 16, 2021
    5. BigSuzyB
      The government sued Microsoft and made room for google and others.
      I’d put Liz Warren in charge.
       
      BigSuzyB, Jan 16, 2021
    6. ace's n 8's
      Back in 1998?, that's what you want to use as a defense?...a '98 lawsuit?...you're getting as bad as the rest of the tourists...

      Lizzy squaw...yeah... that's the answer.
       
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    'Attempted Coup'?

    Do you Libfucks even understand what a 'Coup' is, and what it would constitute to be called a 'Coup'?

    Seriously? This is just more rabid hate mongering from the Left, with ZERO basis in fact.

    More phony outrage.
     
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      Hahaha - Subby, nobody gives a shit about your pussy-ass cowardly ratings. L-O-Fucking-L
       
      latecomer91364, Jan 14, 2021
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    2. ace's n 8's
      buzz words added for hysterically emotional drama to implant more surface optics....and that alone is the real coup.
       
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      Hyperbole is never used by the right. Lol. More like an idiotic rabble. A coup d etat in their wildest dreams.
       
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  18. silkythighs

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    Why was Trump lying about voter fraud? Why does he claim the election was stolen. Why does Trump claim Biden didn't win the election? Why did Trump tell a Georgia election official to find 11,780 votes and threaten legal action if he didn't help Trump find those votes?

    No Trumps goal was to overturn a fair election and keep himself in power. That is called a coup attempt.
     
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    1. tenguy
      Again, your opinion is noted.
      It does appear that the majority of the people agree with you, so did a majority in Congress where it really matters.
      There is difference between lies and beliefs, I have no problem thinking that election irregularities existed, to what degree, I have idea. Does this mean I’m lying?
      I also have no problem believing that Trump feels he is justified in screaming from the rafters, why he does resides in his mind. If the evidence is there, produce it, if not sit down and shut up.
      As far as his demands, it’s Trump’s MO, after all this time, it ain’t gonna change.
       
      tenguy, Jan 14, 2021
    2. pauldz
      how can you have coup when the new President has,nt been sworn in to start the job? and those that stormed the building were Trump surporters, so they were,nt going to overthrow Trump,
       
      pauldz, Jan 17, 2021
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    World warily watches America's postelection aftershocks

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    Yesterday

    PARIS (AP) — For America's allies and rivals alike, the chaos unfolding during Donald Trump's final days as president is the logical result of four years of global instability brought on by the man who promised to change the way the world viewed the United States.

    From the outside, the United States has never looked so vulnerable — or unpredictable.

    Alliances that had held for generations frayed to a breaking point under Trump — from his decision to back out of the Paris climate accord and the Iran nuclear deal, to quitting the World Health Organization amid a pandemic.


    And then, by seeking to overturn his loss to Joe Biden, Trump upended the bedrock principle of democratic elections that the United States has tried — and sometimes even succeeded — in exporting around the world. How long those aftershocks could endure is unclear.

    “It is one of the biggest tasks of the future for America and Europe — to fight the polarization of society at its roots,” German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said. “We will only be able to preserve the belief in togetherness, in democracy as the most humane form of statehood, and the conviction in science and reason if we do it together.”


    But in many ways Europe has already moved on, forging ahead on the deal with Iran, negotiating a trade agreement with China spearheaded by Germany, and organizing global actions to protect the environment.

    On the same day an angry mob stormed the Capitol to try to overturn the presidential election won by Biden, a record number of Americans died of coronavirus. One other recent event also showed U.S. vulnerability: the cyberespionage operation still working its way through an untold number of government computers and blamed on elite Russian hackers.

    World leaders who saw the deadly violence in Washington “will need to consider whether these events are an outlier event — a ‘black swan’ — or whether these extremist white supremacist groups will continue to be a significant influence on the direction of U.S. foreign and domestic policy, instead of receding with the end of the Trump administration," the Soufan Group, a global intelligence and security firm, wrote Tuesday.

    People tend to think of fragile countries “in terms of war as the biggest problem, rather than violence, and thinking in terms of state collapse as the biggest problem rather than states that internally disintegrate,” said Rachel Kleinfeld, a scholar of democracy and violence at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Kleinfeld, like many others, said the assault on the U.S. Capitol may have come to a head in a matter of weeks but was years in the making.


    And the U.S. capacity to fight for democracy was already tarnished before the mob egged on by Trump sought to overturn his election loss. For many, those events were merely confirmation.

    Adversaries including Russia, China and Iran used the violence to question U.S. democracy more generally.

    In an internal note on the State Department's “dissent channel” obtained by The Associated Press, American diplomats said Trump’s actions had made their job harder. “It is critical that we communicate to the world that in our system, no one — not even the president — is above the law or immune from public criticism,” the note said. “This would be a first step towards repairing the damage to our international credibility.”


    Trump showed no contrition, however, saying Tuesday his fiery rally remarks to supporters were “totally appropriate.”

    In Iraq, a country that still struggles with the controversial legacy of a U.S.-led invasion in the name of democracy, many people followed the Washington events with a mixture of shock and fascination.

    Then-U.S. President George W. Bush boasted that Iraq would become a model of democracy in a region ruled by dictators. Instead, the country fell into protracted war between Sunnis and Shiites in which tens of thousands of people died. Although it has an active parliament and regular elections, it is a dysfunctional democracy based on a sectarian power sharing agreement, with corrupt parties haggling over ministries and posts so they can give jobs to supporters while lining their own pockets.

    Ahmad al-Helfi, a 39-year-old Iraqi political cartoonist, said what happened at the U.S. Capitol is a blow to the democracy it tried to bring to Iraq and other countries.

    “By mobilizing his followers in an effort to overturn the results of the election, Trump confirmed that instead of exporting democracy to Iraq, America imported the chaos, non-peaceful transition of power, and failure to accept election results,” al-Helfi said.

    Anahita Thoms, a German lawyer and trade expert who spent years living and working in the United States, said last week's events would indelibly mark America’s image abroad. Thoms is a board member of the Atlantic Bridge, a think tank promoting cooperation between Europe and the U.S. — the kind of organization founded in the aftermath of World War II when the U.S. helped to rebuild the economies of many countries in western Europe that had been destroyed by the war.


    Germany was one country that benefited the most from those U.S. financial and democracy-building efforts.

    Looking ahead, she said American officials may have a tougher time promoting democracy abroad.

    “The U.S. remains a country that lives its democratic values. But this aspiration, which is presented very strongly to the outside world, mustn’t get too many cracks," Thoms said. "I think a lot of diplomatic skill is going to be necessary to counter those pictures.”

    The International Crisis Group, which normally focuses on global war zones, wrote its first assessment ever about the risk of election-related violence in the United States in October. Stephen Pomper, who helped lead the work on the report and lives in the D.C. area, said in the best of circumstances, the United States could eventually point to the decision of Congress to resume certification of Biden's election after the breach as a first step in successfully protecting its democracy.

    “Look, we created these institutions. They did become a source of resiliency for us. They helped us get through this very difficult period. Let us help you develop the same kind of resiliency,” he said, describing a hypothetical future conversation between the U.S. and a struggling government. “That would be a positive story to be able to tell at some point, but I don’t think the pieces are quite there yet.”

    Pope Francis was more optimistic, telling Italian broadcaster Mediaset: "Thank God this exploded” into the open because “we have been able to see why this is, and how it can be remedied.”

    ___

    Associated Press writers Kirsten Grieshaber and Frank Jordans in Berlin, Abdulrahman Zeyad in Baghdad, Matt Lee in Washington; and Frank Bajak in Boston contributed.
     
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    Dont know much about American political history do ya?...you think this is a new found revelation?.

    Seems you're the prime example and result of the revisionist history movement..

    At least RINO McConnell has no interest in entertaining Pelosi with her newest version of a political witch hunt.
     
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