I think another vital issue to follow is what is happening right now between Israel, Palestine, and the US because every conflict the US has been involved in in the Middle East for the past 77 years can be traced right back to the creation of Israel who were actually the original Middle East terrorists. Americans need to be educated on Israel's true history to understand why the last thing we should do is give Israel our unconditional support.

But its also vital to keep track of developments in Israel and Palestine because things a moving really fast and it does appear to be a different paradigm where President Biden and Secretary of State Antony Blinken are making quiet but really significant headway. Such as right now one of the things that is happening is all sides appear to be backing off.

Israeli court delays ruling on expulsion of families in Silwan

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/26/israeli-court-delays-appeal-session-of-families-in-silwan


Sanders drops bid to block Biden's Israel arms sale

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/555491-sanders-drops-bid-to-block-bidens-israel-arms-sale


While at the same time the Biden Administration is making bold and telling moves. Which are the opposite of what Trump and Kushner had gifted to Netanyahu,

Blinken announces US plans to reopen Jerusalem consulate
After being downgraded by former President Trump, the move restores diplomatic ties with the Palestinians.



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/26/israeli-court-delays-appeal-session-of-families-in-silwan

 

I think the only vital issue stumbler want to talk about here is Jew hate in the guise of Israel bashing, stumbler has been on a forum rampage because he cant post his hate filled commentary and is intent on disrupting the forum in direct violation of Rule 3,

stumbler doesnt understand that antisemitism is more than saying kik, throwing pennies and painting swatstikas, anti antisemitism is also obsessively posting comments in many threads just trying to get hate in, ...
Stumbler has lied and insulted Israel's origins, politics, actions in despicable references to nazis and the holocaust
Stumbler has insulted Jews with age old antisemitic references
Stumbler has insulted the holocaust,
Stumbler has lied and insulted Jewish history,
Stumbler has lied and insulted the Biblical origins of the Jewish people,
Stumbler has blamed antisemitism on Jews,

I have never seen the level of offense spoken about any people or nation on this forum by anyone besides stumbler talking about Israel and the Jews, and I've never seen stumbler deride any group besides Republicans and Jews

Stumbler has taken every opportunity to post antisemitism anywhere he can, MTG and the hamas war was a gift to stumbler commentary. Some things can not be accepted as normal, because of repetition or its only stumbler.
Should the forum expect a holocaust denial thread because someone thinks thats why Israel was created.
The forum has rules for a reason, child porn and bestiality arent the only things forbidden...

3. No discrimination based on gender, race, creed, or sexual orientation of any sort. Any threads that generalize inane gender observations and cause a forum disruption will be removed.

Is there anyone who doesnt understand how Rule 3 relates to what I'm saying,
We all know what gender and race are....for those who dont understand creed...."creed, noun, A system of religious belief"

This has nothing to do with silencing free speech, this is about silencing hate speech.

In my opinion, Stumbler has not been able to discuss certain events without entering into an antisemitic screed,

Most forum commentary about Israel or Jews has not been, IMHO antisemitic...some has, but one or two comments does not a problem make...
habit does, regularity does, daily al jizzara headline do, obsessing over every dumb comment rawstory says about MTG is,
how many versions of MTG holocaust comments are necessary, there were pages of MTG meme of israeli space lasers and Jewish stars, before the hamas war. One accepted dumb comment, then another, then another....

it is possible to talk about and defend palis or a nuclear iran without being so intentionally hateful. Consistent hate comments about any other group would not be tolerated.
The world is becoming a very ugly place and XNXX is no place for ugly. This isnt politics or webpages, no headline stories, this doesnt belong here.

With all the liberal forum members, certainly among the active liberal members, I cant be the only person disapproving at what stumbler has been writing, I'm certainly not the only Jewish member here either.


Ya wanna play this game stumbler, I'm thoroughly disgusted you bring this here, I been fighting your kind my whole life, I can do it here also, and if I get banned for doin' it, so be it.

Not reported, and I dont know why you have to do this, ...and dont know why you make me...try discussing issues without antisemitic content, others do, you can, try it!

And to help ya, I'll point out things most, "Persons of Jewish Heritage", would find problematic...K ?

Sorry stumbles you didnt expect me to say nothin' now did ya, did ya?

 

Classic.
Demonize your opponent, in this case, the Jews.
Then, if needed, make up lies or spin the truth in such a way as to divert attention from the real issue(s).
Then suggest a "positive" action to correct the problem.

Look stumbler, you can bash deplorables and trump all you want. You can call America a "shithole country" if it helps you justify your hate.

But to take the side of Hamas/palestine to push your political agenda is as treasonous as anything.
Hamas has a declared and sole purpose for existing to destroy Israel. Both the Palestinians and Hamas are declared enemies of the United States.
Israel is our longstanding ally, the only democracy in the mideast and the only country there that has consistently stood by the US and it's interests in the mideast.
For you, or any American, to take the side of Palestine/HAMAS reveals the depth of your treachery. Pretty it up any way you like, spin the facts however much you can, but in the end, supporting our terrorist enemies is no better than spitting on our military heroes.

And Shooter thinks you know it.

 

If it weren't for hack fuck being the truest enemy of the U.S. as intended, I guess it's a wee bee bit better than the tourist being the cock of the walk.

Everyone can see that hack fuck is the god of troll, then we get the tourist, sugar plum and free tinker as the runners-up with the consolation prize.

The Arabs have been trying to kill off the Jews for over 5,000 years, we see who the enemies of the U.S. in our own Nation which are also the same enemies of a true democratic State in the Middle East named Israel.

One needs to ask, if they truly despise the Democratic State of Israel, due to generational false premises and ideologies, while also supporting the terrorsts that have been championing the destruction of the Democratic State of Israel.....why do they consistently claim that the U.S. is based upon a democracy, and want to destroy the U.S. as intended...to create a new and improved U.S?

Basically, it's all connected, the destruction of Israel and the destruction of the U.S......is Western civilization the the enemy of the overlords, tyrants, dictators and the like?

 

The first sentence...

"of Israel who were actually the original Middle East terrorists. Americans need to be educated on Israel's true history"

This is a lie and a problem, lies are always a problem, in this case your lie defames Israel and the Jewish people, Blowing up the King David Hotel and other events during Israels creation is not a representation of Israel today and has no baring other than to inflame...

why do I feel like lighter fluid?

 

Jews were the Egyptian slaves...aliens didn't build the great pyramids..Jewish Slaves did...simply, more fuctardery from hack fuck.

 

Fox News Poll: Voters support Israel, favor sending aid and weapons
In general, 59 percent of voters say they side more with the Israelis, while 24 percent sympathize with the Palestinians
5/26/2021


Most American voters side with Israel in the Mideast conflict, and over half favor the United States helping with money and weapons, according to the latest Fox News survey.

By a 56-38 percent margin, voters approve of providing the Israeli government with financial aid for its military, and are almost as supportive on selling weapons to Israel (51 percent favor, 44 percent oppose).

CLICK HERE TO READ THE FULL POLL RESULTS



Progressives like Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (D) oppose a $735 million dollar weapons sale, but the Biden administration has committed to helping Israel.

In general, 59 percent of voters say they side more with the Israelis, while 24 percent sympathize with the Palestinians.



Among Republicans, 78 percent back the Israelis and 10 percent the Palestinians. Democrats divide more evenly: 42 percent side with the Israelis and 35 percent the Palestinians.

Republicans are also much more inclined than Democrats to favor both giving financial aid to Israel (71 percent vs. 47 percent respectively) and selling it weapons (67 percent vs. 42 percent).

A ceasefire between Israel and Hamas has held since May 21.

Two-thirds of voters (66 percent) report closely following the Mideast conflict, including 25 percent who are following news about it "very" closely. Democrats and Republicans (70 percent each) are equally likely to be monitoring it closely, while independents are less so (49 percent).

More voters disapprove (52 percent) than approve (43 percent) of the job President Biden is doing handling foreign policy generally.




For his overall performance as president, Biden receives positive ratings: 54 percent approve vs. 42 percent disapprove.

Conducted May 22-25, 2021 under the joint direction of Beacon Research (D) and Shaw & Company (R), this Fox News Poll includes interviews with 1,003 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide who spoke with live interviewers on both landlines and cellphones. The total sample has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.

 

Genesis chapter 23 verses 1-20.
Jewish Publication Society, 1917 (public domain)

The Holy Scriptures According to the Masoretic Text: A New Translation with the Aid of Previous Versions and with Constant Consultation of Jewish Authorities.

And the life of Sarah was a hundred and seven and twenty years; these were the years of the life of Sarah. And Sarah died in Kiriath Arba--the same is Hebron--in the land of Canaan; and Abraham came to mourn for Sarah, and to weep for her.
And Abraham rose up from before his dead, and spoke unto the children of Heth, saying: "I am a stranger and a sojourner with you: give me a possession of a burying-place with you, that I may bury my dead out of my sight."
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And Abraham hearkened unto Ephron; and Abraham weighed to Ephron the silver, which he had named in the hearing of the children of Heth, four hundred shekels of silver, current money with the merchant.
So the field of Ephron, which was in Machpelah, which was before Mamre, the field, and the cave which was therein, and all the trees that were in the field, that were in all the border thereof round about, were made sure unto Abraham for a possession in the presence of the children of Heth, before all that went in at the gate of his city.

And after this, Abraham buried Sarah his wife in the cave of the field of Machpelah before Mamre--the same is Hebron--in the land of Canaan. And the field, and the cave that is therein, were made sure unto Abraham for a possession of a burying-place by the children of Heth.

Abraham purchased the Cave of Machpelah in Hebron, this is acknowledged by muslims..Hebron and the Tomb of the Patriarchs, a sacred site to Jews, was given to the palistinians in 1997 in an effort toward peace.

In the land of the Bible, conflict between Muslims and Jews can not be considered by western standards of excluding religious belief, ...the UN can not draw lines, agreements must be negotiated and honored

 

I have difficulty understanding why any American who is not a Muslim supports the Palestinians against Israel. Hamas demands Palestinian borders from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. Because Hamas demands the right of return for Palestinians and their descendants who once lived in Israel, this would be a Palestine with hardly any Jews in it. Does anyone seriously think this restored Palestine would be a better country than Israel as a distinctly Jewish country?

 

It doesn't represent "all" Jews of today......however it is a perfect representation of the Zionist, back then and still today.

There are many Jews that want to live peacefully with the Palestinians and will even stand with the Palestinians in protests to prove it......Jews that hate Jews.





I hate the Zionist, as i'm sure Stumbler does as well......does that also make me an antisemitic in your eyes, even though i support the Orthodox and any Jew that wants a peaceful existence with Palestine....

 

Diversity is not a source of strength; it is a source of social discord. The ultimate reason for the growing polarization of American politics is the growing diversity of the U.S. population. In the United States Orientals and whites get along just fine, especially when they are prosperous. For an upper middle class white family diversity is a Chinese American family next door, where the son attends MIT, and the daughter studies classical ballet. It is dining in Thai and Ethiopian restaurants. For those living further down the economic scale it is obvious that life is a struggle for scarce resources. The more those people get, the less we can have. For a white blue collar worker diversity is having attended black majority public schools. It is losing job opportunities to affirmative action. It is being the victim of black criminals.

The struggle between Jews and Palestinians is natural. It will continue until Hamas achieves its goal of destroying Israel and expelling (and killing) the Jews, or until the remaining Palestinians are pressured to leave. Currently the Palestinians are being pressured to leave, in ways that bother those whose lives have been pleasant. I do not believe a restored Palestine would be a better country than a Jewish Israel with no Palestinians.

I am not Jewish, but

 

Please define "Zionism".

 

Jews that want pali self determination are not...."Jews that hate Jews."....you are either extremely ignorant or playing a forum game

 

I call bullshit. Show me.

Stumbler has lied and insulted Israel's origins, politics, actions in despicable references to nazis and the holocaust
Stumbler has insulted Jews with age old antisemitic references
Stumbler has insulted the holocaust,
Stumbler has lied and insulted Jewish history,
Stumbler has lied and insulted the Biblical origins of the Jewish people,
Stumbler has blamed antisemitism on Jews,

I think you are too easily insulted.

 

Where are the Palestinians who oppose Hamas and Hezbollah terrorism against Israelis? They do not exist.

 

Palestinian Public Opinion Polls: Attitudes About Terrorism
(2002 - 2019)

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/palestinians-attitudes-about-terrorism

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/palestinian-attitudes-about-peace-with-israel

 

Thank you for posting that. There can never be peace between Israel and Palestine. Those who support Palestine against Israel should be asked to explain why they think a restored Palestine with no Jews would be a better country than an Israel from which the Palestinians have been ethnically cleansed.

 

After WW2 the allied nations felt guilty on the way Jewish people had been treated. Boats were turn round and the people on them were sent back to NAZI Germany or refused admission. England was given the job of ruling Palestine by the UN.The Jewish people still felt unsafe and whated a Jewish home state. There thought that the USSR would invade parts of Europe and Stalin would be 2nd Hitler.So they left Europe to go to Palestine,The English had a problem how do stop them The English troops did not what to shoot helpless familys with women and children. Also we were having problems with Jewish terror gangs .So in the end the English pulled out and let the Arabs and Jewish people fight it out for them selves .And the fighting is still going on to day.

 

Trump and the treasonous conservative/Republicans spent four years railing against NATO, to the delight of Putin, screaming NATO countries must pay their fair share. So why should the US have to pay for Israel's defense. Israel is a prosperous country. Why don't they have to pay for their own defense.

Israel will ask US for $1bn to ‘replenish’ Iron Dome
Benny Gantz will meet US officials in Washington on Thursday, weeks after the 11-day escalation with Gaza.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/2/israel-will-ask-us-for-1-billion-to-replenish-iron-dome