So, on top of the $3B (more since Obama) we give them each year? Now they want us to pay for their defense systems in addition to their dependence money...

If only we could have that money to spend right here at home.

 

Anon and stumbler and the other American hating progressives revel in opposing anything a deplorable or patriot might support.

This is what American politics has become; whatever the opposition might support is to be opposed at all costs. Deplorables are just as guilty.

The problem is that political agendas are now effecting our allies in bad ways. The surprise elimination of $1 BILLION in iron dome funding is a case in point. Hamas will take note and redouble their efforts to destroy Israel, which is of course something progressives and American haters would support.

They do not care that Israel is an American ally, our only true ally in that region. Our only ally that reflects American values and mores.

They would destroy Israel to spite deplorables.

We know not what we do. We should be more careful what we wish for.

 

But these episodes did not filter through to the society at large. The War of Independence
was ritualized, on the contrary, as a miraculous victory of (Jewish) right against (Arab)
might. Deir Yassin was (falsely) described by tile ruling Labor establishment as an isolated
and even condemnable case, a product of the brutality of the minority Irgun group.



Manuals, school textbooks, history books, anthologies and the media placidly glorified the
moral quality of the war, the "Puritv of the weapons" used by the army, the Jewish ethos
underlying the state.

The security or reprisals policy of the 1950s represented, in this sense, a qualitative leap.
The strategic designs were perceived, by the Israeli leaders themselves, is totally irrational
in respect to the regional realities, and especially in respect to the international context to
which Israel had formally committed itself. Therefore, the support required for it inside the
country had to be total, i.e., emotional, almost instinctive, with no concessions to rationality
and no moralistic cover. A strategic goal such as the transformation of Israel into a regional
power inevitably presupposed the use of large-scale, open violence, and could not pretend
even mythically to be achieved on the basis of the earlier moral superiority doctrine which,
therefore, had to be replaced with a new one. Terrorism and "revenge" were now to be
glorified as the new "moral. . . and even sacred" values of Israeli society. The resurgent
militarism no longer needed the idealistic, socialist varnish of a Paimach: the military
symbol was now Unit 101, led by Arik Sharon.

The process of this cultural even more than political transition was not automatic. In fact,
as Dayan admitted in the above quotation, much anxiety had to be generated to encourage
it. The lives of Jewish victims also had to be sacrificed to create provocations justifying
subsequent reprisals, especially in those periods in which the Arab governments succeeded
in controlling the reactions of the harassed and enraged Arab border populations. A
hammering, daily propaganda, controlled by the censors, was directed to feed the Israeli
population with images of the monstrosity of the Enemy. More images showed that
negotiated security arrangements with the Enemy could only be interpreted as a fatal proof
of Israeli weakness.

The final point of this process which Sharett watched in the 1950s was the election of
Menachem Begin as prime minister in 1977. Sharett's Zionist perspective was based on a
political/diplomatic alternative to the terror strategy of Ben Gurion and his followers. This,
he thought, could consolidate the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine and perhaps
enlarge it in the future, without major concessions to the surrounding Arab world. Sharett
believed his goals could be achieved without disturbing the West. Indeed, he thought Israeli
plans could be coordinated with the West's. He lucidly perceived as fascist the logic behind
Israel's security doctrine, and correctly evaluated its consequences of moral corruption on
the internal level and increasing violence on the regional level. He opposed it, and was
certainly its most illustrious victim. His defeat, however, was inevitable, because his dissent
from the strategy was quantitative more than qualitative: on methods rather than
substance; on the number, for example, of the victims of a given military action and only
vaguely on the ideology behind such actions. Basically, in the light of his unflagging Zionist
faith, he was as fascinated as repelled by the strategy, as envious of its immediate successes
as he was worried over its longer range consequences and international repercussions for
Zionism and Israel.

https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-iWpQLGz5TzZJDxxw/Israel%27s%20Sacred%20Terrorism_djvu.txt

 

You can smell the desperation when stumbler boosts his own copy n paste spew because no one else gives a damn.

 

Once stumbler posted a long denunciation of me. To make sure I read it he copied and pasted it. I copied it, modified it, pasted it, and wrote:

"stumbler, you think you strengthen an argument by repeating it. Because I want you to be a worthy adversary I have decided to help you out. To give added weight to your argument, I have increased the print size to six. To make your argument more impressive, I have changed the print color to red."

 

Eait.
So you're the one who taught him about red fonts??

 

Ocasio-Cortez Cries on House Floor After Withdrawing Her Vote Against Funding Israel’s Iron Dome Defense System
By Rudy TakalaSep 23rd, 2021, 4:43 pm
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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez purportedly broke down in tears on Thursday after changing her vote on American funding for Israel’s “Iron Dome.”

The vote was on a proposal to contribute $1 billion toward helping Israel to replace missile interceptors damaged by its conflict with the Palestinians in May. Lawmakers overwhelmingly supported the measure, passing it by a vote of 490-9. Ocasio-Cortez originally voted against it, but changed her vote to “present.”

“AOC seems distraught,” Punchbowl News founder Jake Sherman noted shortly after the vote. “She is in the middle of the House floor wiping away tears, crying into her colleagues’ shoulders.”

C-SPAN footage showed Ocasio-Cortez removing her glasses as she stopped to embrace Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) while votes were being tallied.

One Republican, Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), and eight Democrats comprised the nine-member group voting against the bill. The Democrats included Reps. Ilhan Omar (MN), Rashida Tlaib (MI), Ayanna Pressley (MA), Cori Bush (MO), André Carson, (IN), Marie Newman and Chuy Garcia (IL), and Raúl Grijalva (AZ). One more Democrat, Rep. Hank Johnson (GA), joined Ocasio-Cortez in voting “present.”

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) told Defense News on Thursday the Senate would follow the House’s lead. “Iron Dome is very important and it’ll get done,” Schumer said. “That’s all I’m going to say.”

https://www.mediaite.com/news/ocasi...nst-funding-israels-iron-dome-defense-system/

 

Israeli U.S. Envoy Slams AOC for ‘Legitimizing’ Terror in Bid to Block Arms Sale



DEBORAH BRAND22 Sep 2021

Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Gilad Erdan blasted Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) for filing an amendment to the annual U.S. defense spending bill suspending the transfer of defensive precision-guided munitions to Israel.

“I would expect a Congressperson to understand that Israel is defending its citizens against Hamas, a designated terrorist organization,” tweeted Erdan. “Your amendment further legitimizes their heinous attacks against innocent civilians, as well as antisemitic lies.”

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1438...egitimizing-terror-in-bid-to-block-arms-sale/

“Israel and the U.S. have a strategic alliance that is critical to the security of our two countries. Israel is a world leader in the fight against terrorism, and our partnership has helped prevent terrorist attacks against American citizens many times in the past,” he added.

Ocasio-Cortez’s office announced the amendment would suspend the transfer to Israel of $735 million worth of Boeing Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM) to Israel, which turns unguided bombs into precision-guided missiles.

It was over “the bombing of Palestinian civilians and media centers” she said, referencing an Israeli airstrike on a high-rise tower in Gaza during the recent 11-day conflict which housed the offices of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera – and a Hamas intelligence unit.

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/s...egitimizing-terror-in-bid-to-block-arms-sale/

During the May war, Ocasio-Cortez, together with fellow ‘Squad’ members including Rashida Tlaib, introduced a similar resolution.

“For decades, the U.S. has sold billions of dollars in weaponry to Israel without ever requiring them to respect basic Palestinian rights. In so doing, we have directly contributed to the death, displacement and disenfranchisement of millions,” Ocasio-Cortez said in a statement at the time.

“At a time when so many, including President Biden, support a ceasefire, we should not be sending ‘direct attack’ weaponry to [then] Prime Minister Netanyahu to prolong this violence.”

 

Just for the record the reason I use my last post from Israel's Sacred Terrorism is because I am posting it in installments and show the last place I left off.

The liquidation of his dissenting presence was considered indispensable to the realization
of the Israeli political/military leadership's megalomaniac and criminal designs. His
intrinsic weakness consisted in his seemingly rational hope that the so-called liberal West
would prevent the implementation of his opponents' designs. He relied on the West rather



than on the awakening of a local, popular conscience which he had the power and the
information to provoke but which as a Zionist he could not and dared not do.

On the contrary, notwithstanding his scruples and torments he almost invariably ended up
collaborating with his adversaries, and with those elements in the security establishment
who conspired against him, in the fabrication and diffusion of deliberately distorted
versions of events and policies for domestic and international consumption.

In a historical perspective Sharett's self-portrait as it emerges from his Personal Diary, thus
also explains why no so-called moderate Zionist proposal is possible,and how any attempt to
liberalize Zionism from the inside could not but-as has repeatedly been the case-end in
defeat. A clear, lucid, coherent logic runs through the history of the past three decades. In
the early fifties the bases were laid for constructing a state imbued with the principles of
sacred terrorism against the surrounding Arab societies on the threshold of the eighties the
same state is for the first time denounced by its own intellectuals as being tightly in the
deadly grip of fascism.

This may be just one more reason why Western journalists, scholars sand analysts may find
themselves greatly embarrassed by the following document. These commentators still insist
on upholding the presumed moral commitment of the West to what they obstinately
continue to mystify is Israel's security. In this sense Sharett's Diary, is potentially devastating
to Zionist propaganda as the Pentagon Papers were in regard to U.S. aggression in Vietnam.

https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-iWpQLGz5TzZJDxxw/Israel's Sacred Terrorism_djvu.txt

 

Israel accused of negligence as former Palestinian prisoner dies
Palestinian officials accuse Israel of ‘medical negligence’ after Hussein Masalmah dies of cancer months after release.

 

Israel does what Israel needs to do to assure the safety and well being of the Children of Israel.

 

Palestinian children traumatised by Israeli home invasions
Rights groups say that Israeli raids are having a dire effect on the mental health of Palestinian children.

 

US Democrats introduce bill backing ‘end to Israel’s occupation’
Proposed bill calls for ‘robust oversight’ on US aid to Israel, but Palestinian rights group says it falls short.


Congressman Andy Levin, who introduced the bill on Thursday, said US must play 'muscular' role in pushing for two-state solution [File: Stefani Reynolds/Bloomberg]
By Ali Harb
23 Sep 2021

Washington, DC – Democratic Party lawmakers in the United States have introduced a bill affirming support for the two-state solution and calling for “robust oversight” on US aid to Israel to ensure it is not used in human rights violations.

The proposed legislation, introduced by Congressman Andy Levin on Thursday, would make it US policy to clearly distinguish between Israel and the Palestinian territories that it occupies, including East Jerusalem.

The bill also calls on the US government to maintain diplomatic relations with Palestinians by reopening the office of the Palestinian Liberation Organisation in Washington and the American consulate in East Jerusalem – both shuttered by former President Donald Trump.

Joe Biden had promised to re-establish ties with Palestinians, but eight months into his presidency the consulate in East Jerusalem has yet to reopen.

“The bill makes clear that assistance to help Israel address its very real security challenges should continue without $1-loss,” Levin said during a news conference in Washington, DC, unveiling the bill.

“But it cannot be used in a manner that violates internationally recognised human rights, or for activities that perpetuate the occupation or enable de facto – or heaven knows de jure – annexation.”

Levin, of Michigan, said Congress having a say over how US taxpayer money is spent is “nothing new”, but in this case, it is “essential if we’re serious about achieving a two-state solution and upholding the human rights of Israelis and Palestinians alike”.

Not far enough
It has been the policy of successive US administrations to support the two-state solution, which would see the establishment of a Palestinian state in Gaza and the West Bank. But critics of American policy say the US government has not put enough pressure on Israel towards that end.

Palestinian rights advocates also for years have said the two-state solution is impossible due to continued Israeli settlement-building in the occupied Palestinian territories, and many criticise the two-state idea as a way for Israel to maintain the status quo.

More than 680,000 Israeli settlers currently live in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, according to a recent UN report. Israel captured Gaza and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, in the 1967 war. It annexed East Jerusalem in 1980.

In a statement on Thursday, the US Campaign for Palestinian Rights (USCPR) said Levin’s legislation does not go far enough in pressuring Israel.

“Palestinians have long been clear in their demands – stop US complicity in Israeli human rights abuses and divest from harm and violence,” the group said, adding that measures towards that end must hold Israel accountable for its abuses and meaningfully oppose the “separate-and-unequal” reality that Palestinians are living under.

“The Two State Solution Act does not pass these two basic requirements and thus cannot be a progressive bill on Palestine,” USCPR said.

Growing debate
Still, Thursday’s bill comes amid a growing debate over US aid to Israel, with several progressive lawmakers calling for conditions to be placed on the $3.8bn in annual military assistance the US provides to the Israeli government.

Earlier this year, Democratic Congresswoman Betty McCollum introduced a bill that would similarly restrict the use of US aid so it does not contribute to Israeli annexation of Palestinian territory or to the imprisonment of Palestinian children, among other things.

But Biden has largely kept with decades of US support for Israel. In a speech at the UN General Assembly on Tuesday, he reasserted his backing of the two-state solution, but his administration has refrained from publicly criticising Israeli policies.

Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, who met with Biden in Washington last month, has ruled out allowing the establishment of a Palestinian state under his government.

The bill introduced on Thursday, dubbed the Two State Solution Act, says the establishment of Israeli settlements is “inconsistent with international law”; it also calls for “an end to Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian territories”.


Ilhan Omar
@IlhanMN
Given the human rights violations in Gaza, Sheikh Jarrah, and ever-growing settlement expansion, we should not be ramming through a last-minute $1 billion increase in military funding for Israel without any accountability.
10:16 AM · Sep 23, 2021

It was announced hours before the House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly to provide $1bn in additional funding to Israel’s Iron Dome missile defence system.

In response to a question by Al Jazeera, Levin acknowledged the challenges facing the two-state solution, including Bennett’s stance, but he said it is important to put in the work in order to open new possibilities.

“What’s been missing is the US playing its role – its muscular, robust role – of saying to these two peoples: We are going to support you and bring you together through thick and thin so that we can achieve lasting peace,” Levin said.

The bill is co-sponsored by more than two dozen Democrats, including several prominent Jewish members of the House.

Source: Al Jazeera

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...roduce-bill-backing-end-to-israels-occupation

 

I am sure Israeli children are traumatized by Palestinian rockets.

 

Jews have brought this on themselves by promoting the immigration of Muslims. The Hamas Charter calls for the destruction of Israel. Life is a struggle for scarce resources. Jews are sympathetic with immigrants because Jews are compassionate, and because the history of Russia before the First World War and the history of Germany after the First World War has taught them that they are vulnerable if they are the most visible minority.

Nevertheless, one should distinguish between allies and enemies. The allies of Jews are Evangelicals. Evangelicals think the existence of Israel is evidence that the Second Coming of Christ is imminent. By welcoming Muslims Jews welcome their enemies, alienate their allies, and threaten the survival of Israel.

 

What's the difference between the German government of 1933-1945 and the Israeli government of today =not a lot they both what living space to the east

 

The German government persecuted Jews. The Israel government advances the interests of Jews.

 

The German government advanced the German people interests. Just in the same way as the present Israeli government is going to day.

 

Yeah I know. Nevertheless, I care more about the Jews than the Germans, even though I am half German. My father spoke German before he learned to speak English. Also, the Nazis tried to exterminate the Jews. The Israelis have not tried to exterminate the Palestinians. They just wish that the Palestinians would stop shooting rockets, and become a docile source of cheap labor. Palestinian labor could be beneficial in building Jewish settlements on land conquered during the 1967 Six Day War.

 

Another difference is that the Nazi Germans started World War II. The Arabs started the Six Day War that the Israelis won so gloriously. The land the Israelis conquered during that war are the legitimate spoils of a just war against an Arab effort to destroy Israel.