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  1. Username 1

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    There is no way that a bi-partisan January 6th commission can be formed in which half of the Republican caucus is bent on rewriting history. I think the only way to determine what the facts are is for the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security to set up a commission
     
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    Liz Cheney: January 6th Commission ‘Threatens People In My Party Who May Have Been Playing a Role’
    By Ken MeyerMay 13th, 2021, 7:58 am
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    Representative Liz Cheney (R-WY) said her Republican colleagues feel “threatened” by the idea of a Congressional commission to investigate the January 6th storming of the U.S. Capitol.

    Cheney gave an interview to NBC’s Savannah Guthrie shortly after the House GOP ousted her as their conference chairwoman because she refuses to fall in line behind former President Donald Trump and his 2020 election lies. The vote was a dramatic shift from a previous vote that failed to oust Cheney, so when Guthrie asked her “what changed” since then, Cheney answered “for reasons that I don’t understand, leaders in my party have decided to embrace the former president who launched that attack.”

    “This isn’t about looking backwards,” Cheney said. “This is about the real-time, current potential damage that he’s doing, that he continues to do.”

    “Some of your colleagues say though we supported you before Congresswoman Cheney, you made your point, now drop it, let’s focus on the future,” Guthrie said.

    “Well it is an ongoing threat, so silence is not an option,” Cheney countered.

    Guthrie moved on by asking Cheney what she thinks was the “last straw” that lost her the support of her caucus. Cheney answered by calling for a return to substantive debates between Democrats and Republicans, but after that, she added “I also think that there is real concern among a number of members of my own party about a January 6th commission.”

    I’ve been very public that that commission needs to be bipartisan. It needs to look only at January 6th and the events leading up to it, not at the BLM and Antifa riots last summer. And I think that that kind of intense, narrow focus threatens people in my party who may have been playing a role they should not have been playing.

    When asked if she thinks the commission would find members of Congress “complicit” in the Capitol insurrection, Cheney declined to go that far, but “each time we have something happen in this country that is that kind of a crisis we have a commission, and there is no reason why there should be any resistance to doing so in this case.”

    Watch above, via NBC.

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/liz-che...in-my-party-who-may-have-been-playing-a-role/
     
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    Apparently the republican line is now that Jan 6 was a normal tourist visit to the Capitol.

    A license for everyone to riot then?



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  4. Username 1

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    This is eerily similar to the way that the German Nationalist Party (Nazi Party)would manipulate the truth
     
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    And they wonder why Cheney got bounced.
     
  6. stumbler

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    Liz Cheney was canceled for daring to tell the truth about Trump inciting a deadly insurrection and attempted coup. And treasonous conservative/Republicans cannot tolerate that. The truth is death to them and their Chosen One they want to make a dictator.

    'You left us bloody and alone!' Feds reveal MAGA rioter's anguished message to Trump after realizing he wasn't getting pardoned

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    A member of the Proud Boys who was arrested for taking part in the January 6th MAGA riots angrily lashed out at former President Donald Trump after he realized he wouldn't be getting pardoned for his crimes.

    Politico's Kyle Cheney reports that federal prosecutors this week revealed anguished messages sent by Proud Boy Ethan Nordean on January 20th after he watched Trump leave office without delivering a blanket pardon to all those who rioted on his behalf weeks earlier.

    "F*CK TRUMP!" he wrote in a social media message. "F*ck him more than Biden. I've followed this guy for 4 years and given everything and lost it all."

    Nordean expressed disillusionment because he believed that the United States was really on the precipice of "some great justice," only to see it dashed after watching Trump leave office in disgrace.

    "So glad he was able to pardon a bunch of degenerates as his last move and sh*t on us on his way out," he wrote. "F*ck you Trump you left us on the battle field bloody and alone."

    See the entire message below.

    Kyle Cheney
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    Proud Boy leader Ethan Nordean lashed out at Trump on Jan. 20, when it dawned on him that he’d likely be going to jail for the ex-president, according to new messages revealed by prosecutors last night.
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    https://www.rawstory.com/proud-boy-ethan-nordean-2652984358/
     
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  7. stumbler

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    I don't believe McCarthy can stop the formation of this commission. But he will surely fight to keep it from being formed because if the commission is formed he will finally have to testify under oath about not only being warned in advance the Trump domestic terrorists planned on storming the Capitol but also his discussions with Trump.

    House announces bipartisan agreement on January 6 commission – until Kevin McCarthy says he hasn’t read it yet


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    House Democrats and Republicans Friday morning announced an agreement has been reached "to introduce legislation to form a bipartisan, independent commission to investigate the January 6 domestic terrorism attack on the United States Capitol." Many have doubted the commission would be formed after Republicans worked to derail progress. Now, House Republican Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy may do just that.

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi praised the Committee on Homeland Security's agreement, saying, “It is imperative that we seek the truth of what happened on January 6 with an independent, bipartisan 9/11-type Commission to examine and report upon the terrorist mob attack."

    But as CNN's Annie Grayer reports, "Kevin McCarthy tells reporters he has not read through the deal that John Katko made with Dems on 1/6 commission and said that the scope should not just be focused on 1/6 even though that's what the deal says."

    Republicans have been trying to include the Black Lives Matter protests in the investigation, even though they have nothing to do with the attempted coup and attack on the Capitol.

    When asked about McCarthy's roadblocking, Speaker Pelosi told Grayer, "You know what, why don't you ask him?"

    "His ranking member is a cosponsor of the legislation," Pelosi noted. "We're very pleased that it is bipartisan, and the scope was very important in the legislation."

    Bloomberg adds that McCarthy "was noncommittal when asked if he supports the commission legislation."

    “I have to go through it," he said, pointing to “rhetoric" in the bill about the scope of the investigation “that I want to look through."

    Some claim McCarthy's attempts to block the Commission stem from what GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger revealed earleir this week, that on Jan. 3 he warned McCarthy Republicans' rhetoric and actions were going to lead to violence, but McCarthy dismissed him.

    https://www.rawstory.com/jan-6-commission/
     
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      Dig deeper into what the media is saying. You can see what they are doing but can you hear what they are thinking? No one can!
       
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    No doubt. Conservative/Republicans are still bent on treason against the United States of America now playing the poor poor pitiful eternally wounded snowflake victims.

    Republican claims Capitol rioters are ‘political prisoners’ in rambling speech on the House floor

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    He is going to have to share some of his fame. Which I believe we can be seen in ads from now until November 2022.

    Georgia GOPer who claimed Capitol rioters were 'tourists' destroyed in devastating ad

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    Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-GA), who was widely mocked for describing the Capitol rioters who sent lawmakers fleeing on Jan. 6th as "tourists," was buried in ridicule in a parody ad produced by "The Late Show" that portrayed him giving tours to violent right-wing militias.

    The ad took specific aim at Clyde's comment stating, "Let me be clear: There was no insurrection. And to call it an insurrection, in my opinion, is a bold-faced lie."

    In the ad, the narrator excitedly touts "Fun for the whole militia" for families signing up for "Congressman Clyde's Capitol Tours."

    Clyde later fled reporters questioning his comments, saying that were taking his words out of context.

    You can see the ad below:



    https://www.rawstory.com/andrew-clyde-2652983852/
     
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  12. ace's n 8's

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    ROTFLMMFAOH....

    This is what happens when a political party that opposes the very nature of an idea such as the U.S. was intended to be.

    We see rhetoric..hysteria...distress...hyperbole...character assassinations...false narratives and the like.

    This Country seen a man receive 75 million votes, that represented the very conservative idea's that this Nation was founded on.

    The highest ever before recorded in U.S. history, for a candidate that wasn't a career politician.

    We are seeing the D.C. establishment swamp urchins and the opposing political party twirling into absolute frenzy of hysteria.

    We see this happening because D.C. establishment swamp urchins and the opposing political party couldn't control him as they have been able to do in the past with other half baked career politicians.

    This particular candidate was campaigning to the people...that he was going to work 'for the people', and not for big government.... and by gawd, that's what he did.

    This very thread proves to everyone... that the corrupt political establishment actually exists and they are scared to mother fucking death of the 75 million voters that support a government for the people by the people.

    The candidate only had the support of the voters, no support from the media, not support from foreign activists, no support from the establishment, yet the candidate marched on for the supporters of a government for the people by the people.

    75 million...that is who they are scared shitless of....and I love it.

    Now we see the GOP establishment hack fucks, that only supported the party and not the candidate, using the candidates ideals and political platform as a winning concept for 2022 election, because of 75 million votes.

    75 million...for all practical purposes, I'll claim that it's even higher than that by 7-10%, we'll never actually know how many voted for this particular candidate...

    Yet... what we do know...D.C. is scrambling to regain it's foothold on the people.

    Good luck ya simplistic mother fuckers....good luck.
     
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    But...here's some good news:...

    Pelosi: House Lawmakers Reach Agreement on Jan. 6 Capitol Breach Commission

    House Representatives on the Homeland Security Committee came to an agreement on a bill to establish a 9/11-style commission on the Jan. 6 Capitol breach—which was pushed by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in recent months.

    The bill, according to members of the committee, would include an equal number of Democrats and Republicans.

    “It is imperative that we seek the truth of what happened on January 6 with an independent, bipartisan 9/11-type Commission to examine and report upon the facts, causes and security” of the incident, Pelosi said in a statement.

    Members of the commission will be law enforcement experts, civil liberties, cybersecurity, and civil rights, the committee said in a news release. It will also have the ability to issue subpoenas for information related to their information, although the subpoenas will require a bipartisan vote.

    The 10-person commission will look into the factors that caused the incident and the “influencing factors that may have provoked the attack on our democracy,” said a press release from the committee.

    “I am pleased that after many months of intensive discussion, Ranking Member Katko and I were able to reach a bipartisan agreement,” Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), the head of the Homeland Security panel, said in a statement. “The creation of this commission is our way of taking responsibility for protecting the US Capitol.” He was referring to Rep. John Katko (R-N.Y.), the ranking member on the committee, who notably was among 10 Republicans to vote to impeach former President Donald Trump over his Jan. 6 speech that House Democrats claimed incited the Jan. 6 breach.

    House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said that the commission needs to examine events outside of the Jan. 6 breach, including deadly riots that erupted across the United States last summer.


    “If this commission is going to come forward to tell us how to protect this facility in the future, you want to make sure that the scope, that you can look at all that came up before and what came up after. So that’s very concerning to me,” the California Republican told reporters on Friday. Previously, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said the commission should expand its investigation into other civil unrest.
     
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    Miller Muddied The Waters, But Experts Agree That The National Guard Delay Was Political
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    During a week of congressional committee hearings seeking to clarify why and how things went so wrong on Jan. 6, the officials testifying passed the buck and confused the particulars much more often than they shed light on what happened that day.

    In his prepared opening statement, former acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller said that he partially held back given the already-tense atmosphere surrounding the day, alluding to calls by Michael Flynn for Trump to invoke martial law and a Washington Post op-ed by all 10 living former defense secretaries calling on Miller by name not involve the military in election disputes.


    But, as experts told TPM, an egregious lack of preparation, a reluctance to take the clear threat seriously and a wariness about stepping on a volatile President’s toes seem to have added to layers of complexity and confusion atop those fears, creating a perfect storm.


    “Those who were involved should have known better — or were chosen because they didn’t know better,” Juliette Kayyem, a senior lecturer at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government and former assistant secretary for intergovernmental affairs at DHS under the Obama administration, told TPM.


    The hearings have highlighted lingering, fundamental questions about why it took so long for the D.C. National Guard to reinforce the Capitol, arriving hours after officials first called for help.

    Real Concerns
    Miller, who gave confusing and at times inconsistent testimony this week, has said that he was reluctant to call in uniformed troops due to concern of the appearance of a military coup, citing the calls for martial law and the Post op-ed.

    In addition, there was recent bad precedent where overuse of the military prompted massive outrage. That episode, of course, happened when Lafayette Square was aggressively cleared of Black Lives Matter protesters with tear gas so Trump could take a photo in front of St. John’s Church. Military helicopters used their rotor blades to disperse crowds; then-Defense Secretary Mark Esper described American cities as a “battlespace.” The chairman of the joint chiefs later expressed contrition for his role that day.

    “The politics were pretty crummy because of that incident outside the White House,” Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Steve Blum, former chief of the National Guard Bureau, told TPM. “I think they wanted to avoid those optics.”

    But normal preparation for large and potentially violent events was simply not done in advance of the rally. Experts told TPM that there were ways to have soldiers ready to help that would have kept them out of public sight unless things got out of hand.

    “If this had been taken seriously, they would have called up the Guard a day or two before and brought them to the Armory close to the Capitol,” Blum said. “They would have been ready if needed.”


    Instead, as D.C. National Guard Commanding General William Walker testified in March, his offers to have guardsmen on standby fell on deaf ears, even as information flowed in indicating that some of the people coming to D.C. had violent intentions.

    Hours elapsed after rioters breached the perimeter of the Capitol, overwhelming Capitol police officers. Lawmakers called Miller begging for help. The mob broke into the Capitol building itself just after 2 p.m. — Walker said he didn’t get the order to deploy the Guard until 5:08.

    “Either they didn’t think they had this kind of a problem, or they wanted this kind of a problem,” Blum said. “I don’t want to be a conspiracy theorist, but if you thought this could happen, why didn’t you do anything?”

    Government officials involved in the planning and execution of that day have been hauled in before Congress to answer that very question.

    Concept of Operations
    In particular, scrutiny has focused on a 90-minute delay on Jan. 6 between when Miller authorized troops to be mobilized, at 3:00 p.m., and when he authorized them to be sent to the Capitol, at 4:32 p.m.

    During that delay, Vice President Mike Pence called Miller and told him to “clear the Capitol,” the AP reported.

    What ultimately caused the delay, and caused it to end, remains unclear. Walker testified to the Senate that the delay was in part the result of a litany of unusual requirements that — for good reasons or bad — were placed on the unit for its response on Jan. 6.

    The D.C. National Guard maintains a Quick Reaction Force for major public events in the federal enclave, composed of soldiers held in reserve to support law enforcement in the event of a crisis. But, Walker testified, on Jan. 5 Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy mandated that Walker file a “concept of operations” plan on the day of the electoral college certification before any troops could be committed to support law enforcement.

    The plan, a written or verbal statement of how a commander will go about achieving a certain operation, was in part responsible for the delay, and was “unusual,” Walker said.

    That differs significantly from Miller’s testimony, in which he told lawmakers that the requirement to have a plan was “reasonable and normal,” and one which “could be met in a matter of seconds with an oral briefing.”

    So, then, why did it take 92 minutes? The answer remains unclear.

    “All that kind of planning is normally done prior to someone pulling the trigger,” one former army commander told TPM. The former commander, who requested anonymity due to lack of authorization from the person’s employer, added that “strictures and limitations” placed on the unit by higher-ups may have contributed to delays.

    Muddying The Waters
    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) focused on the hour-and-a-half delay in her questioning of Miller Wednesday, asking whether he provided “authorization to deploy to the Capitol” at 3:00 pm. Miller said that he had, at 3:04 pm.

    From that point, Miller said, it was up to Walker to draft the concept of operations.

    But under further questioning from Ocasio-Cortez, Miller conceded that he didn’t order deployment of the troops until 4:32. That was after he approved Walker’s plan.


    “It took 90 minutes to plan to send the Guard to the Capitol?” Ocasio-Cortez asked.

    Miller replied only that he gave the order to mobilize at 3:00 pm.

    “It’s all straightforward stuff,” said the former commander, who had experience running similar Quick Reaction Forces. “But if the decision to approve the plan or employ troops comes late, then that may have impacted the result.”

    Kayyem added that Miller appeared to be taking advantage of an audience poorly versed in military lingo and practice.

    “Miller tried to confuse people who don’t know how this works by saying he can’t just make a phone call and deploy people — if that’s happening you already made a mistake,” Kayyem said. “That call should have happened three weeks before.”

    She also scoffed at his excuse about not wanting to create the appearance of a military coup.

    “No one is saying they should have put the military solely in charge; the military should have been in a support function like we do all the time,” she said.

    That’s particularly true in D.C., a city well-accustomed to hosting major events like the state of the union and summits with world leaders. Some have pointed to the D.C. Guard’s idiosyncrasies — D.C.’s lack of statehood means that its Guard is always a federalized force technically answering to the President — as further cause for the delay.

    “There’s no delay when they need it,” Blum said of the D.C. Guard. “The only time there’s a delay is when politics enters into it — and obviously, that’s what happened.”

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/miller-capitol-insurrection-national-guard-delay
     
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  15. ace's n 8's

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    So...what's your point?...

    At the time Trump started his speech...it became political for you hack fuck-tard leftists...actually, the leftist fucktardery started days prior to that...

    But hey...thanks for finally catching up hack fuck.
     
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    I’m going to point out that a 1/6 commission should focus on the issue in question. If Kevin McCarthy wants a commission to study the George Floyd protests that would be ok with me. Just don’t confuse the two,cause BLM had nothing to do with the Trump Insurrection
     
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    Once again you express yourself with such dignity and respect for others showing how open minded and intelligent you are. Have a great day
     
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      You will just have to accept that Rule #14 does not apply to treasonous conservative/Republicans on this board. They are allowed to personally attack and name call but you or I will get suspended or banned for it.

      That is just the way it is around here so exercise caution in your responses and be aware of the double standard.
       
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      Thanks for the warning, but I am not inclined to denigrate those with whom I disagree. Sarcasm though is always an option, am I going to get banned for that, because I won’t last long if that is the case
       
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    How many did the other guy get?:rolleyes:

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    Somebody got out of bed on the wrong side!

    Maybe breakfast will improve your vocabulary?

    Thinskin
     
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  20. ace's n 8's

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    Pretty soon...we'll know how many the other guy didn't get.