No one I know , including President Trump has anything against immigrants, However they need to be legal and vetted as non criminals !

It is an even bigger insult to the legal Immigrants to grant any amnesty to the illegals, after all they did it the right way , and the rest did not!

 

I know many legal immigrants and they only feel empathy. I don’t know any who feel outraged or insulted.

 

Am a legal immigrant and I could care less whether they are legal or otherwise. Though to be completely honest I do have tad bit empathy to illegal ones and while do agree that coming over as legal ones is better we honestly dont know to full extent the socio-economic conditions. Yes yes I know from news and other outlets can find out but as said we dont know the full extent of it. An argument can be made that can apply for asylum or sponsorship etc but unfortunately even those arent....for lack of better word lets say optimal for most of the illegal immigrant situations.

 

The OP keeps getting to the point of his racism faster and faster, I do know a few legal immigrants that despise the illegals and all are tRumpies that I cannot stand because most see that the majority of illegals are from white countries and this white nationalist shit is from losers that want to blame Hispanics for the issues and not their GOD of orange skin aka tRump for stoking the racist fires of white trash society. More Hispanics are leaving the shithole that tRump has created than there are that enter. And what will the people do when there are no more "Mexicans" to pick their crops, mow their lawns, or clean their messes? Not like you pussies will ever do those jobs so get ready to starve, live in filth, and mow your own because when the Hispanics are gone you will have a choice to either replace them for nothing pay or go without and we already see how that has worked for farmers that left crops to rot in the fields because they had no workers.

 

for a country based on not wanting to pay your taxes, its now time to pay your taxes. sry but we all gotta pay to live here, fact of life. there is nothing against anyone except people looking for a free ride. and trust me, this includes white collar tsx evading criminals as well. to the threads point, thats personally based. depends on the sruggle of the persons effort to become legal and what it means to them personally to be considered "american". there is no one generic answer

 

I know scores of both legal immigrants, illegal immigrants, and U.S. citizens from just about every Central and South American country, including family. In my experience, the majority are very empathetic to their struggle...and even if they were insulted, they almost always chose to support them. If the organized crime presence in those countries weren't free to operate as they do, than this might change the conversation but I doubt it.

 

We are all just trying to eat.

 

The OP, and the entire racist anti-immigrant crowd chanting the illegal immigrant mantra, always fail to even acknowledge the Americans who pay the coyotes to bring those immigrants here so those Americans can hire them to do dirty dangerous jobs that (White) Americans won't do.

A very recent example is work in meat processing plants. ICE raided a plant. So many workers were arrested and detained that the plant had to close down and the employer had to put up "Help Wanted" signs. No American employers, who are making huge money off of these illegal immigrants, were arrested, or even fined as is allowed by law.

 

Yeah, shoulda sent all them damned Europeans back 500 years ago. See what a mess they made?

 

If illegal immigrants were not available and willing to do those jobs the employers would be forced to raise wages and improve working conditions.

 

You don't know Trump, and don't pretend to think you know his thoughts.

 

Native Americans are immigrants, they're not indigenous to America either, but they may have been the first ones here.

 

Your statement is correct.

Your statement also highlights the intellectual and factual inconsistencies in two things:

The Conservative policies that promote the profitability of US business that is dependent on lower wages and less regulation.

And the Conservative rhetoric that promotes the racism and xenophobia inherent in demonizing illegal immigrants.

 

I don't know what legal immigrants think about it but there must be a legal process for immigration. Most every country in the world has immigration requirements. Why should we be different?

 

I never have understood a person hating another for crossing an imaginary line taking jobs most people turn up their nose at they're not here to take from you they don't even leave their community chances are you'll never see them or even notice them

 

Paul Krugman expresses that dilemma for the Republican Party:

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The Curious Politics of Immigration
APRIL 26, 2010 1:23 PM April 26, 2010 1:23 pm

Just a quick note: my take on the politics of immigration is that it divides both parties, but in different ways.

Democrats are torn individually (a state I share). On one side, they favor helping those in need, which inclines them to look sympathetically on immigrants; plus they’re relatively open to a multicultural, multiracial society. I know that when I look at today’s Mexicans and Central Americans, they seem to me fundamentally the same as my grandparents seeking a better life in America.

On the other side, however, open immigration can’t coexist with a strong social safety net; if you’re going to assure health care and a decent income to everyone, you can’t make that offer global.

So Democrats have mixed feelings about immigration; in fact, it’s an agonizing issue.

Republicans, on the other hand, either love immigration or hate it. The business-friendly wing of the party likes inexpensive workers (and would really enjoy a huge guest-worker program that would both provide such workers and ensure that they can neither vote nor, in practice, unionize). But the cultural/nativist/tribal conservatives hate having these alien-looking, alien-sounding people on American soil.

So immigration is an issue that divides Republicans one from another, not within each individual’s heart.

For a long time the GOP was essentially run by business interests, with the cultural right taken for a ride; in 2004 Bush ran as the nation’s defender against gay married terrorists, then announced that the election gave him a mandate to … privatize Social Security.

But what the Tea Party really signifies, I think, is that the business interests have lost control, that the base, with its fears about the Other, has escaped from guidance. And the sudden immigration outburst is part of that phenomenon.

Democrats think this gives them an opening. I’m unclear about that, at least for 2010. But yes, in the long run you have to think that if the GOP becomes the party of angry white men, unleashed — as opposed to angry white men harnessed to the business elite — it will have a poor future.

https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/26/the-curious-politics-of-immigration/

 

As usual, the despicables want to spin things around so they can claim deplorables don't want immigration, cause, you know, racism.

Lets get this straight once and for all;
Deplorables approve of and support LEGAL migration.
Deplorables do not approve of or condone ILLEGAL migration.

The only reason Shooter can think of that explains why despicables continue to spin this point, and the only reason they disagree with LEGAL migration but approve of ILLEGAL migration is that they want open borders. This also fits with their ongoing description of America as a "shithole".

Well, as long as we have despicables, open borders isn't going to happen. ILLEGAL migration will be opposed and ILLEGAL immigrants will be deported back to their home country. LEGAL migrants will continue to be welcomed.

Now, we can talk about immigration reform, but first we gotta come to agreement that;
LEGAL migration is good.
ILLEGAL migration is bad.

 

what about the people that have come here illegally and been here for 20 years, knowing they're here illegally, and made no effort to become a legal citizen?