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  1. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Shooter was in Middle school when Kennedy was assassinated.
    He recalls his parents and extended family not particularly liking Kennedy, but respecting the office.
    When Kennedy was assassinated and the conspiracy theories started almost immediately, and then Oswald was murdered the way he was, a shadow of doubt was raised on our government.
    Rumors that hidden people influenced every aspect of our government.
    Rumors that Kennedy was silenced by them.
    Rumors that the CIA and organized crime were cooperating with eachother.
    On and on.
    But, there was still a fundamental respect for the office of President and for the government.

    Then Johnson started fucking around in Vietnam, and we saw riots and dissension where before Americans would have blindly supported any war the president thought we should get into.
    Then we got Nixon and found out that a) the president can fuck with an election and with an investigation and b) The system will work if it's allowed to.
    But, we still had Nixon.
    Then we got Ford, and learned that a president can cut back room deals and save his ass, even when he's leaving the office by the back door.
    Then we got Carter. And the Iran revolution. We learned that a president can be wishy washy and get Americans killed/kidnapped and our embassies overrun.
    Then we got Reagan. And we saw blatant propaganda attacks on the president. And conspiracy theories spawned to undermine the office, even more than the person.
    We got Bush, and 9/11, and the attacks on the office increased and became more bitter, more scandalous, more deviant. Other than the brief period right after 9/11, we saw division and dissension for the sake of politics.
    Then we got Clinton, and learned that oral sex isn't sex at all. And the office of president was slimed with sex, a coverup, and blatant lies.
    Then we got another Bush, and the propaganda got worse by the day. Opposition for the sake of opposition, no matter the topic.
    Then we got Obama, the least qualified but with the best public relations ever. Scandals in the Post office, the IRS, State, and even Congress rolled off of this president like water off of a duck.
    Now we got Trump, and the propaganda and attacks are unrelenting, unforgiving, and indefensible.
    Next we get Biden, past his use by date. He will not do well with the shit storm that's coming his way.

    So, there you are.
    How a fundamental respect for the office of President and our government was eroded by all concerned to the point that the office can be impugned without consequence, the basic workings of government bastardized into paralysis and our business ignored in favor of elected official business.

    Biden won't fix this.
    Trump won't fix this.
    We need someone in 2024 who will restore the respect to the office of president and Congress.
     
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    1. conroe4
      Lemme guess. <puts hands over eyes> Candance Owen?
       
      conroe4, Nov 23, 2020
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    2. latecomer91364
      I was thinking, that if Trump truly is defeated, then it should be a Trump/Owens ticket - Grover Cleveland did it. Four years of more Media lying. combined with lower wages, lost jobs and China setting the world's trade agenda should do it.
       
      latecomer91364, Nov 24, 2020
    3. freethinker
      You got the wrong Bush for 9/11.
       
      freethinker, Nov 24, 2020
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  2. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Candace?
    Why, yes, yes, Shooter wishes he'd thought of that!
     
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  3. latecomer91364

    latecomer91364 Easily Distracte

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    Yes - the media in the 60s almost bent over backward to maintain balance and accuracy in news reporting.
    After Nixon, it's like things shifted slightly, like a train slowly inching forward.
    With Reagan it got a little more pronounced, not 'in-your-face' so, but Reagan was stronger than the media.
    The 90s were Clinton dominated, but the media would still report on Bill's scandals.
    After Busk/Gore, we had a major shift - especially with the Iraq war. It was 'get Bush!'
    The media was just fine with Obama of course.
    With Trump, the last shackle came off and the media and the Dems went 'Fucking Nuts, All-In' - No semblance pf reason or fair play (or reporting).

    This is now a caged death match between the Left and Right, brought upon by the Left, who will stop at nothing, and with the growth and unchecked power of the regular and the social media, unknowing Americans are spoon-fed the positions that the Left wants them to hear.

    Even the raving idiot Libtards should be afraid of this environment, because once the Left gets to control everyone's lives, the Fuckup Libs will find that it's hard to stay within the ever more stringent 'rules' of the new society, or to survive and prosper in the new economy.

    It's like that old saying:

    “First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.”
     
    1. conroe4
      So I shot the motherfuckers and went on with my life, cause I did not let them take my guns.
       
      conroe4, Nov 24, 2020
    2. latecomer91364
      haha - we'll see how that works out...
      Money is pouring into GA, with people like Andrew Yang (he was a Presidential contender, remember) tweeting that he and his wife are moving to Georgia to vote for the two Dem senatorial hopefuls on January 5 - and there's a slate of prominent people espousing the same move, which is patently illegal.

      Lose the Senate and it's fucking open season on the citizens of the US.
       
      latecomer91364, Nov 24, 2020
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  4. Justlikethat

    Justlikethat Useful tool

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    I remember seeing Kennedy when he was running for president sitting on the back of a black convertible waving to everybody as he drove along the Main Street of my town. I didn’t understand what was going on at the time but I’ll never forget it because it was like a parade with all the people lining the street yelling and clapping. Then John John and the black horse with the boots in backwards, a very sad day.
     
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