@anon_de_plume
So, first of all "your thread"?
What, once you create it, you have a thing to say about it?
How arrogant.

Second,

".... should be rendered by standing at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart.
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Third, the choice to take a knee during the anthem and presentation of colors is a concious decision on the part of protesters. They could send the same message during many other times.

Protesters now know their message missed the intended mark and still they proceed without change or apology.

The only conclusion from that is that dissrespect to the flag and the country is the point.

That is why Shooter has boycotted those entitled, privileged assholes, and for you to support that dissrespect is not a surprise to Shooter.

 

@shootersa

How is the percieved hurt you suffer different to a moslem that takes offence at cartoons of the prophet mohammed?

ts

 

Religion or Patriotism. Not the same thing.
But you already knew that, right?
Diversion FAIL

 

"So, first of all "your thread"?"

Nice that you intentionally evade the point. You say I'm a troll, and yet you read a thread I started KNOWING that you think I'm a troll. And then you claim I trolled you then you whine about it.

You set yourself up on this one.

 

Not at all @shootersa you have proven your Chosen One Trump is your religion and the only thing you swear allegiance to is your dictator Trump.

You raving hypocrite TRAITOR

 

That's even a violation of the flag code!

 

Mmhmm...

 

Yes. "Federal officials said Richard Barnett of Arkansas was taken into custody Friday morning in Little Rock." per cnn.com

 

Isn't upside down SOS?

I always liked that useful piece of etiquette.

ts

 

Hey TRAITOR the American flag belongs to all of and the Supreme Court has ruled that burning or other forms of protest is protected speech. But the BLM banner was private property and that is what he is being charged.

But take consolation in this. If someone wants to show up and burn an American flag in front of your house for being a god damned TRAITOR there is nothing you can do about that. But if they grab your Anerican flag and burn that then you can have them arrested for that because that was your own personal property. And the same is true if they burn your Confederate or Nazi flag.

 

You're full of shit!

 

Like the Capitol after the thugs left!

ts

 

Yea, Dodgers!!

 

Its Friday and I don't want to put with your mental illness grandma.

 

I win, I win, I win!!!!!

 

Wait a minute - I consider myself liberal, but I don't agree with burning the flag. My parents explained what it was like back in the 70s. Then the courts made it legal, so don't blame that on liberals.

What torques my butt is that it's considered disrespectful to silently take a knee during the pledge, but Confederate flags, removing the nations flag and putting Trump flag up in it's place was freedom of speech.

Like I said - do not blame liberals.

 

For the record, burning the flag is the only respectful way to destroy the American flag and veterans clubs, boy scout troops and fire departments all over the US do it on a regular biases!

 

I've said elsewhere, 3 years of dis guarded flags got brought to the American Legion box

 

I have burned several American flags and one American flag shirt although I would never burn one in protest. We burned dirty and worn out American flags as proper disposal as per the flag code.

And one year when I got an American flag shirt for Christmas. It was brand new when I went down to take some photos of the Boy Scout troop.

The Scout master was a Wwii vet and when I showed up in that shirt he did not approve twice. Once because what that flag meant to him when he saw it raised from the beach on Iwo Jima. And again because I was a Boy Scout once and was supposed to know the flag code.

We turned into a teachable moment and reviewed the flag code and then went outside and burned my new shirt. Then when I got back home shirtless I just told my wife no more American flag clothes even though that was the latest fashion rage at the time.

 

Also I have no problem with other people burning an American flag if they want to and defend their right to do so. That is their first Amendment right and one of the things the flag stands for. And anyone who tries to stop them is guilty of a crime and belongs in jail.

 

Barber shop I used to go to, hot girls cutting hair, all the smocks are American flags, last cut I had there, told 'em it wasnt right and I wont be coming back........in spite of the boobs

 

Also I have no problem with other people burning an American flag....I do

I put 3 worn flags in the flag box at the VFW

 

Agreed! Flag crimes are the same as the blasphemy laws in many countries!

Freedom means nothing is beyond ridicule..........whether you chose to redicule these symbols defines freedom and respect.

ts

 

Yep, some do indeed, they were trained by the segregationist Democrats.

 

@tenguy you don't get to criticize Democrats for past mistakes after you conservative/Republicans turned TRAITORS and staged an attempted coup that got five people killed including a Capitol police officer.

And you are just such an incredible phony lying hypocrite, Respect the flag you say when your fellow conservative/Republicans are shitting on the floor and tacking it all over our Nations Capitol? Just non fuck you for the rest of your life for that traitor

 

And you don’t play a role in determining who is responsible, outside of your own mind.

You histrionics aside, your voice is still but one.

 

This guy is so hellbent on his self righteousness, there is nothing but his beliefs.
Go take a walk stumbler, get some fresh air. Let that anger go. As much as you think you know and understand what is taking place, reality is you know no more then I, in regards to the truth and what is behind it. We both look at it from our perspective, what we have been led to believe, niether of us know the true truth.
I know you will never accept this, that is counted on. Not by me.

 

Bullshit, I know insurrection when I see it on TV. Regardless of your politics you don't get to attack the nations capital looking to kill our elected leaders just because you disagree with the election results. And those of you on the right know you would have screamed just as loud if the left done such a thing when Trump was elected. lastly, I would point out that the law is on our side and has determine that a crime occurred when the mob went past the barricades and forced their way into the capital, while attacking police officers who were simply doing their job.

 

Bravo, Horacio.

 

Does it say anything about removing the flag from the Capital building and replacing it with a Trump flag?

 

Did they really do that? I keep hearing more and more things people are claiming happened, but something's just don't hold up.

 

The day you put on a badge and gun, go where you are called to, and address the completely unknown circumstances of a violent situation, you "might" have a leg to support your thoughts on what happened.
People of color are discriminated against, much more then other races, that is a problem, still, and is being dealt with. Not here to argue if that is enough. But common sense tells you, when a law enforcement officer points a gun at you, no matter the circumstances, it is no longer a question of choice, you do what he or she tells you. If you are not the problem or for reasons the officer considers for his safety, do what they tell you. There is no entitlement on the wrong end of a gun. No matter who is pointing it.

 

Tell that to Tamir Rice.

 

I'll tell it to anyone who will listen, I don't wish harm or hate on anyone. But That doesn't mean I can stop what others do. Be the better person, is the best I can tell anyone.

 

Well, you can't telling it to Tamir Rice, a 12 year old shot and murdered by a cop.

 

Sorry to hear that.

 

When you're quite done - can somebody translate this half-baked bullshit for me ?
Perhaps you @shootersa when you've finished fellating Old Glory
Flags are just playground bullshit - they flutter for fools.
They can mean one thing and another to one man & the next.
I would have thought values & actions matter most, are more telling.

"My country right or wrong" tccchhh
Grow up.

 

Watch the video in the thread repeated history, continued denial,

 

Oh no. We can't expect Clive to understand or respect the issue.
He's another one of those arrogant European bloviators who still believes that America is populated by little more than arrogant colonists who have forgotten their subservient role and who should be pleased to serve their masters back in the homeland.

Even reminding them that except for America they'd all be speaking Russian or German now only triggers their "Well, but that's what we expect the colony's to do when needed; be our cannon fodder".

They cannot be educated or brought into more modern times, cause, first it would require them to admit that their empire no longer exists; they fucked up bigly.

 

Oh, and "they" can take away Shooters platform and try to take away his first amendment rights.

But they can't fully succeed until Shooter lets them take it away.

And that ain't fucking happening.

 

Yep, come and take it.
It is getting strange, and most likely will get worse before better, but there is still those who know and understand what's going on, and what their after. Rhetoric is rhetoric, but I have confidence there will be more then enough to stand together, if needed.

 

What's the first amendment have to do with it? Corporations are not required to give you a platform to broadcast your manifesto. If they ban you from using their system, it is not taking away your rights. You are still free to start your own platform, such as Parler. Also, just because they don't carry your app is not an attempt to take away your rights, as they are not required to advertise your product.

The first amendment is a contract between the government and the people.

I do think it is quite funny how on the one hand, a baker can refuse you service because you violate one of their core beliefs, but social media MUST provide you a voice using their equipment and resources, and there's nothing they can do to stop you.

 

You still don't grasp that if one group can be silenced, any group can be silenced. You can be silenced.
You might be thinking "well, yeah, but not me, I'm part of the collective." The problem is, you are part of the collective only so long as they let you be part of the collective.

 

Why do you think they are being silenced? Twitter and Facebook are not the only social media out there! Besides, trump has the bully pulpit of the presidency. He had thousands of ways to get his words out.

Also, using free services as your publisher kind of means that they can censor you when they see fit. Their equipment, their rules. Don't like it, start your own.

 

Why are they being silenced?
Because the message isn't in line with their belief set of the moment.
And that's the problem.
Don't agree with another point of view?
Censor it.
Which is what the first amendment was all about stopping.
Twitter and Facebook are the big dogs of social media, and you know it. They should not be able to censor someone because the beliefs aren't in line with theirs. That was OK when they were just one more platform, but that hasn't been the case for many years. They have earned an obligation to let all beliefs be heard on their platform, even unpopular ones. You know, like gay rights, and socialist platforms and the SOROS message.

Tell you what, why don't you start your own media platform? "We" don't like your message, so "we" are going to censor you.
How would that work for you?

 

Follow the money, this is so much more then politics, it is above the difference if opinion. This is straight out greed of power and money. The belief that yesterday has no purpose, today is all about tomorrow. What they are conditioning people for today, will not help tomorrow, but will make the ultimate deception unstoppable. Keep believing it's all conspiracy, it can't happen, it is just a opposition tactic. For it is an opposition tactic against the people, not one party or the other. Is it to late? Can Anericans stop long enough to see, just how high the cards are stacked against us all, to except people we trusted, believed in have betrayed every American, for this deception? On both sides, for a long time they have kept it hidden, as much as they continue to try to hide it, it is also out in the open plain to see. Don't believe it? They are counting on enough of us not to.

 

Attaboy

 

Can you say photoshop?

 

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/nazis-stormed-capitol-why-people-181210396.html

https://qz.com/1953366/decoding-the-pro-trump-insurrectionist-flags-and-banners/

All I could find at short notice and my son is home and he thinks you are a dick too shitter!

Later.....

ts

 

Hey @shootersa , is it possible to photoshop a video of live action?

 

Ah!
So dutch dickhead has a dutch dickhead son!
Marvelous!
The lineage will continue.

And @HisBabyGirl , yeah, probably a video could be photoshopped, but why is that relevant to the discussion?

 

What one person finds offensive, is not true for everyone. The Confederate flag does not represent opposition, pro- slavery, or treason, to me. What is offensive to me is closed minded individuals that believe their beliefs are all that matter. That they can rewrite the narrative of history to support their beliefs, that they can blame people of the day for wrongs of the past, that have no connection to the people of today. And just as offensive are those who allow this selfish attitude to appease the ignorant.

 

Apples and oranges.

The kneeling was disrespect fo r more than the flag, it was disrespect for those who sacrificed to protect the symbol.

The actions Wednesday were simply criminal.

 

With every post rear admiral motherfucker exposes what a hypocritical, lying unpatriotic pusbag he really is.

Do defend dissrespect for the flag of this country in the name of protest is the height of hypocrisy.

Course, what the fuck does rear admiral motherfucker care?
Its a "shithole country", right?

 

You bunch of lying TRAITORS make me laugh. How much more disrespectful can you be to our fallen than to ry and overthrow the government nation and ideals they died defending and the Constitution they swore to protect and defend.

There is no greater offense than turning TRAITORS

 

Your reading comprehension has not improved at all.

 

The self serving attitude that all who disagree are the very same, traitors, how American is that? Goes right along with these little children to grow up making every thing about themselves, me ,me, me. Selfish ignorant immature excuses for Americans as well as human beings.

 

My lost little puppy is back. I named him Loser.