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  1. stumbler

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    The Odds of Getting Long COVID Are Terrifying

    A study of Californians who contracted the coronavirus found that 35 percent of them reported at least one symptom two months after they tested positive—a phenomenon known as “long COVID.” The most common lingering problems in the study—conducted before the vaccine were available and published this week by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention—were fatigue and trouble breathing. The researchers found that women, people over 40, Black people, and those with pre-existing conditions were more likely to suffer from long COVID. They also noted the small size of the study sample—366 people—and said more research is needed.

    Read it at The Los Angeles Times


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-odds-of-getting-long-covid-are-terrifying?ref=home
     
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  2. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Several studies from 2008 to 2018, show long term effects of viral influenza patients after recovering from the infection.
    It comes as no surprise that Covid-19 has the same possible long term effects.









     
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  3. slutwolf

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    We already know about the vaccines available now to combat covid 19 ,
    but there's not been much widely available on advances in treatment for those infected.

    Obviously with the improved survival rate , there have been some , and I just saw an interesting summary of the new treatments now available.

    The great news is that there are some very effective drugs comming available.
    One , Sotrovimab looks particularly helpful , and timely , particularly because it helps save people ,
    including the young.
    It reduces hospitalisation and death
    by 79% ,
    and there are at least five other drugs giving good results ,
    so it's not a case of all the eggs in one basket.
    (even at 90% that can be vaccinated , at about 90% efficacy , that leaves a hell of a lot [about 18-19 out of every 100 people] ,
    PLUS all the young who can't be , who are vulnerable.
    If 79% of all those who do get infected can be kept healthy and out of hospital , along with the asymptomatic , that is huge)

    Another possibility is that several company's have promising preventative drugs already in the testing phase .
    If successful , that will mean just popping a pill can stop people getting infected.
    Much simpler than ongoing continuous WW vacinations .

    Fingers crossed on that one to.

    One thing is for sure ,
    we are going to be having to deal with this thing for quite a long time , particularly with countries giving up , and settling for lower levels of vaccination than that nescassary for good control (at least 90%+) ,
    and maybe permanently for now.

    If we can't get vaccination rates high enough , and we haven't got good control , and no near hope of elimination ,
    then we really need very good treatments to keep from having health providers perminently overstretched and overwhelmed ,
    so that they can't do thier job with other patients adequately.

    an update an our outbreak , all the signs are looking good still ,
    so far.
    for the recent four days since I last updated;


    18th today , 20 new community cases
    27th , 12
    16th , 13
    14th , 15
    13th , 33 community cases
    continuing the downward trend.

    spikes expected , because we know some don't show untill the 12th day tests results ,
    and that has been quite a lot from the start ,
    but they are already isolated
    (we hope)

    all in Auckland
    most already genomically linked to known cases/clusters.

    There have been several stupidity cases of rulebreaking recently ,
    so we've all got our fingers crossed those selfish idiots have not started any new outbreaks.

    Sadly Aussies cases are still rising , with a seven day average now close to 1770
    = over 70 cases every hour of the day

    Our vacations are finally up to speed , and improved access all the time , just sadly months later than was expected , and SHOULD have happened.
    we're at over 33% fully vaccinated , and overv70% had one , last I looked.
    Aim is for Over 90% ,
    but they'll have to keep on improving ease of acces to have any hope of that.
    And they need to do it Now ,
    while the ball is still rolling.

    how long before some fool says this is to long , tltr
    any bets ?
    :)
     
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  4. Valspar

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    What?
     
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      slutwolf, Sep 18, 2021
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      Most ? lmao
      which bits did you decide not to read lol

      and what's with the "claimed to write"
      bullshit.
      I wrote it all .

      Maybe if you read more and concentrated on your comprehension ,
      you might not make so many stupid mistakes
       
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      I can skim over self righteous bullshit.
       
      Valspar, Sep 18, 2021
    5. slutwolf
      Obviously without comprehension.
      Bye
       
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      Nice last minute edit.
       
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  5. slutwolf

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    Looks like vaccines for children under 12 are on the way.
    That will be a game changer , with the current numbers of young and school aged kids being infected.

    Let's face it , it's not realistic to expect children to maintain preventative measures for any length of time , and practically impossible in schools .

    If they couldn't be vaccinated , that's a big chunk of the population always likely to be spreading it , bringing it home , and taking it to grandparents etc.

    It also makes the desired 90%+ vaccination target much more achievable.

    * ** *
    from NZ news
    For elementary school-aged kids,
    Pfizer tested a much lower dose - a third of the amount that's in each shot given now.

    Yet after their second dose, children ages 5 to 11 developed coronavirus-fighting antibody levels
    just as strong as teenagers and young adults,
    Dr Bill Gruber, a Pfizer senior vice president, told the Associated Press.

    The child dosage also proved safe, with similar or fewer temporary side effects - such as sore arms, fever or achiness - that teens experience, he said.

    note:
    all our covid vaccinations are Pfizer , aiming for 80% soon and 90% (of all eligible) before Christmas
     
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  6. dikmac22

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    2 weeks b4 Thanksgiving 2020 ~~Day B4 Valentines 2021 I know I was Covid via could not/would not eat, and a sore developed at the speed of a switch being flipped on in my esophagus(?, area I could feel my liquid intake flow over) in Feb. '21 felt easing up and went to Dr. after not going for 2years previously w/act of needn typical antibiotic for absessed tooth needn extraction, used typical antibiotic and sent covid kickn the can
     
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      diabetic, previously covid, and age,...I got me 2Shots worth of antivirus, being rumurred tht new covid is much more contagious, hell-yeh I did
       
      dikmac22, Sep 21, 2021
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  7. stumbler

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    More Americans lost to Covid-19 than 1918 flu pandemic

    Agence France-Presse
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    White flags are seen on the Mall in front of the Washington Monument in Washington to symbolize all those lost to Covid(AFP)


    Despite a century of medical advances, more Americans have now died from Covid-19 than the number who succumbed to the 1918 flu pandemic, according to new data.

    The latest grim milestone comes as the country is experiencing a fourth-wave driven by the highly contagious Delta variant, with low vaccination uptake in many regions the main cause of death.

    Johns Hopkins University tracker showed 675,722 US coronavirus deaths as of Friday,
    which surpasses the 675,000 US deaths during the influenza outbreak that began in the last year of World War I.

    All told, some 50 million died worldwide in the flu pandemic -- sometimes inaccurately referred to as the "Spanish flu" -- making it the deadliest event in human history, according to epidemiologists.

    That far exceeds global Covid deaths so far -- around 4.7 million.

    But the United States has borne a disproportionate 14 percent of those fatalities, despite making up only five percent of the world's population.

    The American population in 1918 was less than a third of what it is now, meaning the flu deaths would be equivalent to some 2.2 million in today's terms.

    Unlike today's influenzas, which impact children and the elderly the most, the 1918 flu caused unusually high mortality among young adults.

    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, with no vaccines and no antibiotics for secondary bacterial complications, control efforts were limited in the 1918-19 to non-pharmaceutical measures.

    These included "isolation, quarantine, good personal hygiene, use of disinfectants, and limitations of public gatherings," it said.

    Many of the same measures, including face masks, were recommended when the Covid pandemic began.

    Now, however, there are also multiple safe and highly effective vaccines that were developed and tested in record-time -- but 24 percent of US adults, or almost 60 million, haven't yet gotten their first dose.

    Uptake has been hit by a polarized political climate and what experts call an epistemological crisis, with misinformation supercharging vaccine hesitancy to historically new heights.

    Beyond vaccines, effective treatments have been developed such as monoclonal antibodies, corticosteroids to dial down hyperactive immune responses in patients with severe Covid, and advanced ventilators.

    As for the 1918 flu, descendants of the H1N1 strain that continue to make up the seasonal influenza viruses we fight today, with far less severity.

    https://www.rawstory.com/more-americans-lost-to-19-than-1918-flu/
     
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  8. tenguy

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    From the same report, this was strangely omitted in @stumbler ‘s post.


     
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      Well, but as soon as you see a post from stumbler you know it will be despicable propaganda, progressive spin, American hating lies, or plain old bullshit by omission.
       
      shootersa, Sep 22, 2021
    2. stumbler
      There were no antibiotics, no treatments, and no vaccines for the flu in 1918. And we have all of those right now and still COVID deaths surpassed the number flu deaths.
       
      stumbler, Sep 23, 2021
    3. shootersa
      Told ya so.
       
      shootersa, Sep 23, 2021
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    A study by the CDC found that 73% of deceased COVID-19 patients were obese or overweight.
    This is a problem that shouldn't exist!
     
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      It sure shouldn't ,
      but it's not pc to point it out.

      The same condition is found in so many areas ,
      but in few old age homes.
       
      slutwolf, Sep 22, 2021
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      Sadly
       
      phxbi_bear80, Sep 22, 2021
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      Here in Romania, 90 % of deceased had comorbidities (cancer, hypertension, diabetes etc.), most of them being 50+ aged. Sadly, cases are increasing extremely fast here, 6700 yesterday from 60.000 tests (the percentage is around 10 %, constant, thats the only good thing), but vaccination goes very slow, probably people want to get natural immunity rather than vaccine one. And ICU part is a disaster, authorities weren't ready for this wave ... the main government party has a congress on saturday, so they didnt give a shit on the pandemy last weeks ...
       
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    There's a pretty simple and reasonable way to compare how well we're doing ,
    and how our countries have handled this disease ;
    by population -

    the World 230,279,000 cases
    4,721,000 deaths

    Country averages per million
    Cases - 29,543
    Deaths - 605.7

    having some countries with cases as high as over
    120.000 cases per million

    and many countries with deaths
    over
    2,000 per million .

    While some have cases under 100/m
    and deaths in the single digits /m
    (less than 10/m)

    So how is your country doing ?

    and
    why is it doing so well ?
    or so badly ?

    What are we learning ?
     
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  11. thinskin

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    A very interesting article about the longevity of the immune response to the vaccine in that while primary antibodies do wane in time as with all vaccines, the response from the B cells and the T cells remains strong.

    In the light of this I think we should be vaccinating the rest of the world before we start giving booster shots.

    Read it for yourself in Nature.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02532-4

    Thinskin
     
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  12. crhurricane

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    What do I know? What I don't know? Logic is one form of knowledge, what has happened in the past can present knowledge, what is truth and knowing the truth is knowledge. Here are three links, if you what some knowledge, whether you care to think of it as truth, is your choice, but you may learn something.

    https://originalistideas.tumblr.com...here-is-a-very-coordinated-effort-by-the-main

    https://rwbthunder.tumblr.com/post/662976047824977920/deplorable-patriot-this-is-a-must-watch-share

    https://originalistideas.tumblr.com...he-cdc-licences-vaccine-technology-but-isnt-a
     
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  15. thinskin

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    Shit for brains!

    Wanna take this garbage to the politics garbage forum?

    Thinskin
     
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      To complicated for you, or your panties in a bunch?
      Shit for brains? that's original, living up to your name.
       
      crhurricane, Sep 22, 2021
    2. stumbler
      No. They hate an actual factual discussion of COVID 19 especially using sources so they want to get this thread kicked to Politics as well and Stanley will probably do it for them.

      While if it was me I would pick up an infraction for posting in the wrong section.
       
      stumbler, Sep 23, 2021
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  17. thinskin

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    Dear @StanleyOG you moved the original of this thread to politics because it became just a vehicle for vitriol, political rhetoric and various spam and memes.

    This thread was started by those us that want it to be place for information on the spread and treatment of the pandemic and yet there are still members using this thread to play politics.

    Can you fix this?

    Thinskin
     
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      Thanks Stan.

      ts
       
      thinskin, Sep 23, 2021
    3. crhurricane
      apologies, my intent here was not to be political, more informative, add in some sarcasm. I am not poking fun at the seriousness of an illness that is killing people. It is the actions and reactions of different groups of society, that causes how I reflex on the overall outlook of the situation. Unfortunately politics is, by fault or design, has become part of all of this issue. I agree with keep it separate, and if I post to this thread, I will be aware of that.
       
      crhurricane, Sep 23, 2021
    4. stumbler
      I will believe that when I see it.
       
      stumbler, Sep 23, 2021
    5. crhurricane
      it's a thin line, when your beliefs dictate what is information(things you agree with) or politics( things you don't agree with).
       
      crhurricane, Sep 24, 2021
    6. crhurricane
      All rhetoric aside, are we here to have fun?
      coloring inside the lines is boring.
       
      crhurricane, Sep 24, 2021
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  18. slutwolf

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    What's gone wrong in Israel ,
    I've been wondering.

    After all the publicity and hype about Israel's rapid vaccine rollout ,
    now ,
    having eased controll restrictions ,
    they're suffering badly
    from the same sort of surge in cases as many other countries.

    Israel - population 9 million
    ave over 6,000 cases per day this week

    the current overall "per million population"
    133,204 cases/mil , 811deaths/mil


    Well ,
    it turns out their great vaccine rush stalled.

    They couldn't maintain the early rates , across the whole population ,
    and hence ,
    as of now their fully vaccine coverage is still only 62%

    Really ?

    Even our crazy cousins across the ditch are planning starting to easy things
    only after reaching 70% ,
    and starting opening up
    after reaching 80%



    * ** *

    A main part of the problem has been vaccine coverage.
    After its fast start, Israel's rollout slowed. There have not been any clear interruptions to vaccine supply hesitancy or access to healthcare may have been an issue.

    For example, there's evidence of uptake being lower among Arab and ultra-Orthodox Jewish groups.

    The share of the population having received one dose increased from 50 per cent in February to only 68 per cent in September. Children aged 12-15 have been included in the rollout since June 2021,
    yet despite this,
    currently only 62 per cent of the population have had two doses.

    (a reminder yet again , 62% vaccinated ,
    means at best about 56 % are protected (90%+-)
    which means about 43 people in every 100 are NOT protected at all)

    * ** *
    We have a similar problem
    (as I'm sure many do)
    , in that certain segments of the community are harder to reach , and to get good coverage with things like vaccinations.
    As a result there is as concerted push to get all groups at least 90% vaccinated.
    Not just 90%+ of the general population overall .
     
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      An expert in my country said this corona will never disappear ... in 2022 it will still be, then starting 2023 will transform into something endemic, without a real danger for public health ... Sad part is that my country is full of idiots against vaccine, as in our educational system we learn about totally useless things and not about science or real life situations ... so people believe in 5G, chips etc. ... Delta will leave many deaths, but it's their option not to vaccinate and ultimately die ... Less people alive, smarter country we have :)
       
      erotic_man, Sep 22, 2021
    2. stumbler
      Thank you @slutwolf. This is something I've really been wondering about.
       
      stumbler, Sep 23, 2021
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  19. slutwolf

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    It is reported that Delta is still the predominant variant ,
    for and away outcompeting others ,
    including Mu .

    So it seems currently very unlikely that the Mu variant will gain any significant hold anywhere that has Delta.

    Put simply , Delta is by far the most infectious.

    That
    regardless of its concerning array of attributes ,
    currently Mu simply can't get a decent foothold .

    Also most of the other variants of interest , or of concern , have been downgraded.
    They just haven't got any traction .

    All these types of things are standard in viruses ,
    and unfortunately ,
    for now we just happen to be stuck with the one that's of most concern ,
    infecting the widest age range , and the quickest , being the most infectious , strongest , and cleverest
    (figuratively speaking).

    (just thinking:
    much n all as Delta is a really problematic variant to gain control over ,
    I'm not sure we want a new variant capable of taking over from it.
    chances are it would be even more of a problem)

    on the other hand , a dominant variant that didn't infect children , and didn't cause organ faiures or other long term effects in a significant portion of victims , could be a relief.

    Any virus manufacturers out there interested ?
     
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      No.
      If you look for the info , you'll find Mu spread really successfully where it was top dog .
      It's just to slow to compete with Delta , while it could outrun others .

      (from memory originally in Peru)

      If you want more technical info , you can find it as easy as me , and easier than me copying it here and boring most :)
       
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      I think Lamda also originated in Peru.
       
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    4. slutwolf
      So you already know , which makes me wonder why you ask me those questions.

      I guess you also already know that Lambda is one of the ones I mentioned has been downgraded to no longer considered a high threat.
      :)
       
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      No I was asking a question about how it's affecting the spread nothing else. Delta doesnt actually affect the others other than its infecting more people. Which is Probably a good thing.
       
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    6. slutwolf
      Then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

      The proof of the pudding is in the eating , and delta has consistently ousted others as the variant of concern around much of the world ,
      like here where it is the only one
       
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  20. thinskin

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    Proceedings in the National Academy of Sciences provides a Darwinian perspective on the evolution of the virus in unvaccinated populations.

    Personally I think treatments available to unvaccinated population will only accelerate Darminian evolution if the virus.

    https://www.pnas.org/content/118/39/e2114279118

    Thinskin
     
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