Stormy Cohen Avenatti And Rudy

stumbler · Dec 20, 2020

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You cant call me a pussy for reporting you behind your back, ...here it is old timer, right up in your face, up close and personal...Just like on Wide World of Sports and just like I'm gunna do every time you call me into your shit!

@StanleyOG

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I don't know there grandma you hysterical God damned treasonous crybaby Q uislings maybe you better take you buddy Stanley again because it doesn't look like your hysterics are working so far.

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@stumbler

I never thought you ignorant Bumbler, although I've observed you to be stupid, ...as such, continuing obvious harassment and Rule violations in light of recent events,

only leads me to believe your are deliberately getting banned or closing your Xnxx account and will return as BumblersRevenge or something, ...and blame everyone for reporting you and getting you banned...your getting yourself banned!

you need to stop, you now have your playground, enjoy it, stop with the alerts and comments to people like myself who dont want it, your like an unwelcome, public PM the girls talk about.

Bumbler, I have nothing but forum rules and righteousness on my side, ...and a very strong willingness to legally defeat you, do not rile me, ...especially when I'm drinking whiskey!

Have a pleasant evening

P.S...."I will miss our conversations"...but this is the way it has to be
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And once again this is just a great example of @shy guy's obsessive/compulsive disorder with his persecution complex. Everything has to be about him and he is God like.

deleted user 555 768 · Dec 20, 2020

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he is God like.
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Do not kneel to me, Bumbler, I am but a man...but...

....Sinner, Blasphemer......I command you to be SILENT!

stumbler · Dec 20, 2020

And now I don't think the insanity defense is going to work here Rudy. You stupid fucks attacked private American companies and all but destroyed them with just the most stupid and outrageous lies in US history. And you stupid fucks like almost all companies they want customers all over the world. And you. Trump, the Kraken et al and of course the God damned treasonous Q uislings are destroying their marketability. You fucking A you can and should be sued for that.

‘PROVE ME NUTS!’ Giuliani Goes on Wild Rant Pushing Voting Machine Conspiracies After Companies Threaten Legal Action

Rudy Giuliani continued to dig in on conspiracy theories about voting machines on Sunday, after a series of legal threats to himself and others who have made similar claims.

Claim after claim Giuliani and others have brought to court have been rejected by judges, including ones appointed by President Donald Trump. Republican officials in the states they have contested have defended the integrity of the elections in their states, but Giuliani continued digging in on his insistence that it’s going to turn out President Donald Trump won.

Giuliani raised his voice on his radio show Sunday as he complained that the voting machines were not “honest” and that states don’t want to take up his wild claims.

He “guaranteed” that once the voting machines are inspected, “Donald Trump will be president of the United States.”

There was reporting Saturday that Giuliani asked the Department of Homeland Security about seizing the voting machines, but “was told the department does not have the authority to do such a thing.”

Giuliani flipped out on the radio Sunday and attacked Dominion, accusing them of being crooked and going “all the way back to a bunch of communists!”

And he got even angrier:

“I can smell crooks! Smell ’em! And these crooks smell so bad, you can smell ’em from a mile. Now * PROVE ME WRONG! PROVE ME NUTS! They love to say I’m nuts on left-wing bullcrap companies, so prove me wrong.”

A few minutes later, Giuliani attacked the ** CEO of Dominion as a “Canadian liar” after he publicly pushed back on these conspiracy theories.

But Giuliani also turned his ire on Republicans, asking if they’re “too afraid of Dominion.”

“I find you, the Republican turncoats, the Republican *** quislings, the REAL villains there!” he declared. “You’re acting like Dominion owns you!”

At one point, Giuliani said, “I could be wrong about all this, but I’m willing to stake my reputation on it… Let me do the machines.”

President Trump himself then called in for a few minutes, saying he spoke to Senator-elect Tommy Tuberville, who has publicly said he may challenge the election results when Congress takes it up.

Later on in the program, Giuliani said he wants people to go to state capitols to “put pressure on these **** quisling Republicans.”

Giuliani also entertained a wild conspiracy theory about Dominion votes being sent to and tabulated in Germany, “based on its connection with Smartmatic, which it denies.”

“It denies that it sent any votes out of the country. We have definitive proof that it did. Definitive proof,” Giuliani really, seriously said.

The conspiracy-mongering continued as Giuliani said “they were also counting votes in Barcelona, and they were sending folks to Venezuela… [and] Iran.”

He again attacked Dominion’s CEO and accused him of lying.

Both Dominion and Smartmatic have publicly demanded retractions and threatened legal action over claims made by Giuliani and others.

As you’ve probably heard by now, Smartmatic sent a letter to Fox News about claims made on Lou Dobbs Tonight, Justice with Judge Jeanine, and Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo. All three shows aired the fact-check one after another with an expert debunking claims that Giuliani himself was making.

Smartmatic’s demand to Fox News cited comments from Giuliani like “the machines can be hacked” and “they have no ability to audit meaningfully the vote” and “there is a backdoor and we actually have proof of some of the connections to it” and that Smarmatic owns Dominion and that “they use a Venezuelan company to count our ballots” and “our votes were sent overseas” and other wild claims. The company apparently sent a letter to Giuliani himself in addition to Fox, Newsmax, and OANN.

Meanwhile, Dominion recently sent a letter to Sidney Powell demanding she retract her “wild, knowingly baseless and false accusations.”

You can listen above, via WABC.
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*Now right there when a lawyer says that you know you are dealing with mental illness. That's not how it works and any competent lawyer not only knows that they know an insane statement like that is worth tacking on another few hundred million to the settlement. No you insane babbling non-fucking traitor. Everyone knows the opposite is true. You made the statements and the burden of proof is on you. And you better be able to prove every fucking word.

**Ok now the CEO of Dominion has no choice but to sue Rudy. Jesus Christ if you're a company you cannot afford to have anyone call the CEO a liar. And I hope they just sue the dog shit out of all these traitors.

***Hey @shy guy did you see that?

****Oh come on now @shy guy you've got to love that you God damned traitorous Q uisling. That is some great shit there with ol Rudy calling you Republicans quislings.

https://www.mediaite.com/radio/prov...racies-after-companies-threaten-legal-action/

deleted user 555 768 · Dec 20, 2020

stumbler said: ↑

he is God like.
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shy guy said: ↑

Do not kneel to me, Bumbler, I am but a man...but...

....Sinner, Blasphemer......I command you to be SILENT!

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stumbler said: ↑

I have to get these up on the Little Desk thread, grandma. You are in really classic Little Desk form.
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Please do, I am quit proud of this on...beats the hell out of.... Q izler

Mayling · Dec 20, 2020

I don't understand.

deleted user 555 768 · Dec 20, 2020

stumbler said: ↑

Kraken
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Thats a new one! ....Gunna make it K raken?

deleted user 555 768 · Dec 20, 2020

stumbler said: ↑

Hey @shy guy did you see that?
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No, What?

deleted user 555 768 · Dec 20, 2020

stumbler said: ↑

Oh come on now @shy guy you've got to love that you God damned traitorous Q uisling. That is some great shit there with ol Rudy calling you Republicans quislings.
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Rudy said..dont even want to type it...quizler?

deleted user 555 768 · Dec 20, 2020

stumbler said: ↑

I don't know there grandma you hysterical God damned treasonous crybaby Q uislings maybe you better take you buddy Stanley again because it doesn't look like your hysterics are working so far.
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shy guy said: ↑

Do not kneel to me, Bumbler, I am but a man...but...

....Sinner, Blasphemer......I command you to be SILENT!

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Take heed Bumbler, You dont care about tramplin' the 1st amendment, ..... but think twice about the ass kickin' you'll get for messing with The 3rd Commandment!

ace's n 8's · Dec 21, 2020

Giuliani slams Justice Roberts for cowardice and NYT for hit piece
https://www.oann.com/giuliani-slams-justice-roberts-for-cowardice-and-nyt-for-hit-piece/
OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 3:15 PM PT – Sunday, December 20, 2020
President Trump’s lead attorney Rudy Giuliani weighs in on the week’s closing controversial headlines. One America’s Chief White House Correspondent Chanel Rion has more.

stumbler · Dec 22, 2020

Now this is getting very interesting. Do you think Trump will pardon Rudy or just leave him hanging. I tell you I don't think Rudy would fair well in prison.

Rudy Giuliani’s electronic communications may be sought by feds in criminal investigation: NBC

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On Monday, NBC News reported that federal prosecutors have discussed moving to review Rudy Giuliani's electronic communications, as part of a widening criminal investigation.

"Prosecutors for the Southern District of New York have been in communication about their desire to see Giuliani's emails with Justice Department officials in Washington, the two sources said," reported Julia Ainsley, Tom Winter, and Lisa Ferri. "The SDNY needs Washington's approval before its prosecutors can ask a judge to sign a search warrant for materials that may be protected by attorney-client privilege, according to department policy. It is not known whether that approval has been granted by Washington to the SDNY."

"The scope of the current investigation is unclear, but In October 2019, the Wall Street Journal reported that SDNY prosecutors were reviewing Giuliani's bank records as part of an investigation into his dealings in Ukraine," continued the report. "Two of his former associates, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, were arrested that month on charges of campaign finance fraud and have since been charged with additional crimes related to wire fraud conspiracy. Parnas and Fruman have pleaded not guilty."

According to two sources, the investigation's focus on Giuliani is "very active."

*Giuliani's involvement in Ukraine ultimately led to Trump's attempt to use military aid to pressure the president of the nation to announce an "investigation" into the Biden family — a scandal that formed the basis of Trump's impeachment.
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*This is another thing that got buried in all the other news at the time and impeachment but everybody involved, Rudy, his buddies, Rick Perry and other members of the Trump administration were all trying to cut their own secret deals in Ukraine. But that hasn't been investigated yet.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-giuliani/

deleted user 555 768 · Dec 22, 2020

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Rudy Giuliani’s electronic communications may be sought by feds in criminal investigation: NBC
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Maybe they wont?

shootersa · Dec 22, 2020

Since Giuliani was (is?) Trump's lawyer it will be difficult for the assholes in the SDNY to make a case where he has to give up a damn thing to them.
Sounds like more despicable wet dreams to Shooter.

stumbler · Dec 22, 2020

This is another time when it looks like the press knows a lot more than they are reporting. Last night Rachel Maddow went through all Rudy's connections to trying to cut deals in Ukraine and Rudy's association with Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman. And they are extensive, Then today both MSNBC and CNN are reporting on it but its more like teasers that something big is coming. Like they know more than they can report about the investigation and indictments coming for Rudy. So it will be interesting to see what Trump does. And I am betting Trump will leave Rudy hanging instead of pardoning him because Rudy failed to overturn the election for him.

Rudy Giuliani pardon more likely as feds consider warrant for his emails: NBC reporter

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Federal prosecutors are drawing closer to Rudy Giuliani, making a presidential pardon more and more likely.

Prosecutors for the Southern District of New York have been in contact with the Department of Justice to discuss a warrant for Giuliani's emails, according to two sources who spoke to NBC News, setting off a politically and legally fraught process in Washington.

"It's really complicated," said NBC News reporter * Julia Ainsley, "because not only is Giuliani an attorney, but he's the president's attorney. So when you talk about getting information, getting communications that are protected under attorney-client privilege, you have to go through main Justice and a lot of times they set up a filter team. These are people who have the very tedious task of reviewing communications, deciding what is protected, and then they are the ones who decide what to hand over to prosecutors so the prosecutors don't see anything that could be protected under attorney-client privilege."

But much of that evidence would likely be permissible for prosecutors to review, because Giuliani serves many roles for the president.

"He wears many hats, so some of the communications very well could not be protected by attorney-client privilege," Ainsley said. "But then you have the added layer he's the president's attorney, and that could be a reason why some of this investigation was at least, it kind of went quiet for a while. You can't take overt actions that's as closely tied to a candidate, and at that time, the president was a candidate, and the lead-up to the elections. That's why we may have not heard as much about this investigation."

Giuliani has been under investigation since February by the U.S. Attorney's office he once led, and Ainsley said that's heating back up now that the election is over.

"We know they're interested in the bank records a lot stemmed from his activity in the Ukraine," she said. "They were in the spotlight during the president's impeachment trials, and now we're hearing this is ramping back up. Two sources say it's ongoing, one telling me it is quote, 'very active.'"

Any investigation of Giuliani is bound to ensnare President Donald Trump somehow, and Ainsley said he'll be sorely tempted to pull the plug.

"There's a lot that investigators can come across in an investigation line this, especially with somebody like Rudy Giuliani, who is involved in so many pieces of the president's life," Ainsley said. "These are headlines that we'd expect the White House to look at and not just think, 'Oh, that's a Ukraine thing we put that to bed.' When you're talking about the communications of Rudy Giuliani, we're also interested in the communications he would have had with the president. That's why that pardon trigger now seems like something, you know, the president may -- we know he's been talking about with Rudy Giuliani."

"That's been reported, and so I think that that is even more something that we want to be looking for now because if the president not only wanted to protect Rudy Giuliani but also himself," she added, "knowing that some of his communications could be seen with the investigators. It's in the back pocket, and because this is a federal investigation the president does have the power and all he'd need is a pardon to put this entire investigation to bed."
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*Julia Ainsley is another excellent reporter that is usually very cautious and only says what she knows to be true. And obviously lots of people in the DOJ are talking to her.

https://www.rawstory.com/rudy-giuliani-trump/

stumbler · Dec 22, 2020

And here again it just amazes me this is the kind of unbelievable stupidity Trump supporters are willing to turn traitor for. Its one thing to be a treasonous Q uisling. But that is compounded when you are just stupid and ignorant treasonous Q uislings.

Especially since I think this confirms the press reports Giuliani is going to be indicted and he fucking knows it.

Giuliani blames Biden's 'secret police' after Trump Justice Department considers warrant for his emails

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Rudy Giuliani, an attorney for President Donald Trump, on Tuesday accused President-elect Joe Biden of using "secret police" to investigate him.

NBC News first reported this week that federal prosecutors for the Southern District of New York have considered issuing a warrant for Giuliani's emails as part of a probe into his dealings in Ukraine. The Wall Street Journal previously reported that prosecutors are also interested in Giuliani's bank records.

In a tweet on Tuesday, Giuliani suggested that Biden was behind the effort to prosecute him.

"I'm proud to be number one on Biden Vindictive government list," Giuliani wrote. "Sounds like the DOJ anti-Trumpers can't wait for Biden to make DOJ the GOVERNMENT Secret Police like they were under Obama."

"They want to seize my emails," he added. "Attorney-Client privilege.?"
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*Ok so after Trump has been president for four years, appointed multiple AGs, fired all US attorneys, fired and removed people from all the New York and DC districts we are supposed to believe its Biden's "secret police." Oh fuck that is just so hilarious. But you know those Trump TRAITORS they will believe anything no matter how stupid, ignorant, and unbelievable.

https://www.rawstory.com/giuliani-secret-police/

stumbler · Dec 23, 2020

Rudy Giuliani Left a Voicemail for Lev Parnas’ Lawyer Before Impeachment Hearings, Asked for Call Back at ‘Soon to Be Gotten Rid Of’ Phone Number

Rudy Giuliani sits between his now-indicted, Soviet-born associates Igor Fruman (L) and Lev Parnas (R) in this photo released by the House Intelligence Committee.

Less than a month after federal prosecutors charged Lev Parnas, House Democrats had been preparing for public hearings on the impeachment investigation, and President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer dialed up his Ukrainian-born associate’s attorney.

“Joe, it’s Rudy Giuliani,” the former mayor of New York City told attorney Joseph Bondy on Nov. 1, 2019, according to a transcript of the call made public in an exhibit on Tuesday. “I’m calling, uh, to see if we can talk either about or with Lev. I have my lawyer with me, but you can call me back at [REDACTED]. That’s [REDACTED].”

“That’s the soon to be gotten rid of number,” Giuliani allegedly added.

Whether Giuliani intended to leave that additional piece of information is unclear. The former mayor’s penchant for accidental dials is said to have played out in an extended outtake in his voicemail.

“On November 1, 2020, the President’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, left a voicemail message with the undersigned counsel, half of which was inadvertent after Mr. Giuliani forgot to hang up his phone,” Bondy wrote in a 55-page motion on Tuesday, arguing that his client is the target of selective prosecution.

The revelation falls a day after NBC reported that the investigation into Giuliani remains “very active.”

“Mr. Giuliani’s entreaty to speak with Mr. Parnas went unanswered, and it is unknown whether Mr. Giuliani actually altered or destroyed any evidence associated with his cellphone, nor why he might have felt a need to get ‘rid of’ his number,” Bondy continued. “Instead, new counsel informed HPSCI that Mr. Parnas wished to comply with their previously issued demand and subpoena.”

Parnas ultimately shared thousands of texts, emails, photographs, videos and other files with the House Intelligence Committee, which were cited more than 100 times in their impeachment report.

That is what Bondy argues Trump’s Department of Justice sought to avoid with his client’s arrest.

“During the most divisive and corrosive presidency in our nation’s history, the United States Attorneys’ Office for the Southern District of New York (‘USAO SDNY’) elected, first, to open an investigation into Mr. Parnas and co-defendants, given their national origin and his support for President Trump and other Republican Political Action Committees (‘PAC’) and legislative candidates, and then, as part of an intervention by Attorney General William P. Barr, to time Mr. Parnas’s indictment and arrest to thwart him from being able to provide evidence to Congress during the Impeachment Inquiry of President Donald J. Trump,” the motion begins.

On Oct. 9, 2019, Parnas was arrested at Washington’s Dulles Airport, where he sought to board a flight to Vienna. CNN reported that Fox personality Sean Hannity had been planning to interview disgraced Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin at the time, as Trump supporters tried to rehabilitate his image to concoct a conspiracy theory to smear Hunter Biden, as a cudgel against the president’s political opponent.

Parnas has since produced text messages supporting his assertion that he was supposed to assist Hannity in the interview, which never occurred and whose planning the Fox host never denied.

The day before Parnas’s arrest, his then-attorney John Dowd sent an email to a who’s who of Trumpland lawyers: Giuliani, Trump’s impeachment defense team Jay Sekulow and Jane Raskin, and lawyers Joseph DiGenova, Victoria Toensing and John Sale, trying out the invective used to discredit the investigation over Trump’s dealings in Ukraine.

“We are sending this letter to the intel committee to eliminate any doubt that Igor [Fruman] and Lev will appear to answer questions because we are not prepared to do so,” Dowd wrote, referring to House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff as “Schifty” and the whistleblower as “fake.”

Parnas ultimately chose a new lawyer: Bondy, who allowed his client to open up remarkably to Congress and, unusually in the pre-trial phase of criminal prosecutions, with the press.

The Ukrainian-born immigrant is awaiting trial for campaign-finance violations for what prosecutors call illegal donations, including to the Trump super-PAC America First Action, and allegedly cheating investors in the company Fraud Guarantee, which Giuliani served as a lawyer.

Giuliani, a former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, has yet to be charged by his successors in that office, though their probe is said to be continuing. His attorney Robert Costello did not immediately respond to an email requesting comment.

The Southern District of New York declined comment.

Read Lev Parnas’s motion below:
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https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...ck-at-soon-to-be-gotten-rid-off-phone-number/

stumbler · Jan 6, 2021

Cohen is not the sharpest tool in the shed and way behind. Mental health experts have been pointing our for three years that normal people lie to try and gain some kind of advantage but in Trump's case his lies are often dangerous and destructive to him. And yet he can't stop and that is how we know we are dealing with psychosis. Because Trump actually belives his own delusions and has actually shaped all his sycophants and even the federal government to make his delusions seem true.

Michael Cohen Thinks Trump Has Actually Deluded Himself Into Believing He Won the Election

Former Donald Trump personal attorney and fixer Michael Cohen told SiriusXM radio host (and Mediaite founder) Dan Abrams that, because of the president’s “pathological narcissist” personality, he thinks Trump has now convinced himself he won the 2020 election, when, in fact, President-elect Joe Biden won both the popular and Electoral College votes by comfortable margins.

Speaking with Abrams on SiriusXM’s The Dan Abrams Show, Cohen said the Trump heard pleading with the Georgia secretary of state to “find” roughly 12,000 votes to flip that state was a man who had fully bought into all the bizarre, delusional, and anti-democratic conspiracy theories he has been pushing.

Abrams leaned into the discussion of divining Trump’s personal motivations by noting that “intent” matters when it comes to the legal system.

“If he truly believes that he won the election, then it’s harder to demonstrate criminal intent,” Abrams noted. “I have to say, after listening to the tape, I start to think he actually believes that he won. And that’s why I wanted to get you. . . to say do you think that’s the case?”

“I think he’s a pathological narcissist,” Cohen replied. “One of the things Donald has always believed in is the Stalin approach, that the more you say something over and over again, the more people will believe it. He has now gone past that line. He has now convinced himself that there is something that is keeping him from his second term and that he is the rightful winner of this election.”

Cohen added that contributing to that self-delusion is an egotistical blind-spot by Trump that cannot process losing to someone he mocked as the worst presidential candidate of all time.

“So you do you think he’s convinced himself that it’s true?” Abrams followed up.

“I do, I do. Yes, I do,” Cohen affirmed. “There’s no other way he can explain to himself — remember Donald Trump has three friends in the whole world: me, myself, and I. And there’s no way he can express to himself that he’s a loser, and that Joe Biden won. It goes against his essence, just his core, and he needs to rationalize something to explain this loss.”

Listen to the audio above, via SiriusXM.
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https://www.mediaite.com/election-2...d-himself-into-believing-he-won-the-election/

silkythighs · Jan 6, 2021

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Michael Cohen Thinks Trump Has Actually Deluded Himself Into Believing He Won the Election/
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I disagree completely. Trump knows full well there was no voter fraud. Trump simply can't admit that he lost the election. He claimed the repuke primaries was rigged. Claimed the general election was rigged. In 2016 he continually refused to say if he'd accept the outcome of the election if he lost. If he had lost in 2016 Trump would've done the same thing he's doing now. Telling his supporters that "crocked Hillary" and the Dems stole the election. Every thing we've seen in 2020, we would've seen in 2016. If a election is rigged, then even if he loses, he didn't really lose. Trump has managed to convince millions of his followers that he really won. The harder he protests the more it seems like he's fighting the corruption and fighting for American democracy. So instead of being a "loser" He's still a winner and a hero to his followers.

Also like all good con artists, Trump has made a boat load of money through his stop the steal fraud. Con artists are expert at looking however the need to look. Now he's seen as a martyr to his followers. Free to continue playing his con for years to come.

No, Trump knows exactly what he's doing. If the repukes are dumb enough to go along, well that's even better for Trump.

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one of the most pathetically loved starved woman haters I have ever seen on this forum..
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One of the most?....I wont stop until I am THE, most pathetically loved starved woman haters you have ever seen on this forum!

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