Interesting!



Thinskin

 

What the fuck ever tourist

 

Former FBI official anticipates 'Rudy is going to be hung out to dry' as investigation advances


Rudy Giuliani smoking a cigar (Twitter)

Last week former attorney to President Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, was raided by the FBI as part of an investigation into work he allegedly did on behalf of foreign countries. Speaking to MSNBC on Monday, former FBI official Frank Figliuzzi and former senior prosecutor to Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissmann, explained why nothing about the story is good news for Giuliani.

MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace began by saying that major news outlets are withdrawing their reports that Giuliani was briefed by the FBI about his actions being possibly illegal. In fact, a briefing was prepared with the anticipation of giving it to Giuliani, but it was never actually conducted as a debate spread through the Justice Department about whether it would compromise the investigation. It all happened in the final months of the Trump administration, the AP reported last week, before Attorney General Merrick Garland took over.

"Ultimately, you do a cost-benefit analysis and decide whether it's sensible to do [the briefing]," explained Figliuzzi. "Does it help or hurt the investigation? Here's how that conversation may have gone with regard to Rudy Giuliani and the briefing that wasn't given. First question, is this: what's the purpose of the briefing? Somebody would have said, 'we do them to raise awareness,' 'we do these briefings to warn people that they're in over their heads with the Russians.' And then somebody might have said, 'Rudy Giuliani was an Associate Attorney General of the United States. He was the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. He knows how foreign intelligence services operate, so this doesn't really give him a heads up or a warning about anything he doesn't already know."

Figliuzzi went on to say that another question would be that Giuliani could ask if he's under investigation or claim he doesn't need a briefing because he's an expert.

"Then last question, what do we get out of this?" he asked. "Do we have evidence on Giuliani right now? Do we need him to say something and monitor him after the briefing to see if he changes his conduct? The answer, probably not. We probably have enough. This is probably more harmful to give the briefing than not. He is going to come out publicly if we give it and say that they never told me to stop doing what I was doing and, therefore, I thought it was okay. Let's not give the briefing. That's how that goes."

Weissmann explained Giuliani's excuse that he was acting as a lawyer on behalf of a client.

"So, he has a really good defense if he was solely acting for a U.S. person and if the only client was the president of the United States, now, the former president," said Weissmann. "Then that cannot be a violation because that requires that he act for a foreign person either a foreign government or any foreign individual."

As Weissmann explained, Giuliani can do both, serve clients from multiple sides, so the Southern District of New York will have to essentially follow the money to find who Giuliani was truly acting on behalf.

"If he has foreign clients, they clearly were asking him to do something and so all you have to do is trace that out as to what he was doing for them," said Weissmann.

Figliuzzi closed by explaining that when the FBI conducts a raid, it means that the evidence is available to go public with the investigation and they're merely looking for evidence to corroborate the information they already have.

"I think it's wrapping and nearing an end, but let me respond to what Claire [McCaskill] said," he continued. "This sets up a fascinating tension between Trump and Giuliani because, as Claire said, Giuliani was probably getting money from the Ukrainians or elsewhere. And now he's going to claim — Giuliani — 'I was just working for Trump. He is my client. Not for a foreign power or people.' And Trump will have to say, 'Yes. He was just working for me. I knew everything he was doing.' Trump's not going to say that. Rudy will be hung out to dry."

See the full conversation below:





https://www.rawstory.com/rudy-giuliani-hung-out-dry/

 

'Tells you a lot': George Conway explains why Trump's former lawyer is in deep legal trouble

Tom Boggioni
May 04, 2021



George Conway

In an interview with the Daily Beast's Molly Jong-Fast, conservative attorney George Conway got right to the point and explained that the way in which the Justice Department is going after former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani is indicative that they already have a solid case against him and, in Conway's words, the man once called "America's mayor" is in "deep shit."

In the "New Abnormal" podcast, which can be listened to below, the husband of Kellyanne Conway said the DOJ doesn't take going after a lawyer lightly, much less one who has been representing the president of the United States.

After a discussion about Donald Trump, who Conway referred to as "the big liar," the conversation turned to Giuliani's legal problems after last week's raid where his phones and computers were confiscated.

"The Justice Department doesn't like to execute search warrants on lawyers, right?" Conway began. "And the reason why they don't like that is because they don't want to get into messy disputes about attorney-client privilege."

"So they basically, if there's a way to get evidence without going to a lawyer there, it's basically incumbent upon them to do that. And if they ever seek to execute a search warrant on a lawyer, they have to go to the Main Justice [the headquarters of the Justice Department] and get permission from senior people in the criminal division on Pennsylvania Avenue," he added. "That tells you a lot here. Because even though there's a probable cause standard for any search warrant—where you have to show that there was probable cause that a crime was committed and that there's a basis to believe that executing the search warrant will provide evidence of that crime—in this case, they had to do much, much more than that."

Conway also had a few things to say about Giuliani's decision to seek legal advice from attorney Alan Dershowitz, saying the Harvard Law professor has already made multiple false statements about Giuliani's chances of surviving the investigation.

"He's [Dershowitz] been off the rails for a long time... In the first impeachment trial, Dershowitz made crazy arguments, to the effect that if the president does something, it's for the benefit of the nation and therefore can't be a crime, it can't be impeachable. Which was just insane," he told host Jong-Fast. "And now he's arguing that lawyers are immune from the execution of a search warrant, and that's just not true either."

You can listen below or here:

https://www.rawstory.com/george-conway-2652868813/

 

This sounds like a flip warning to me.

Rudy Giuliani's advisers are privately complaining that Trump needs to help more with his legal costs: report







As a federal investigation into Rudy Giuliani heats up, people advising him are reaching out to Donald Trump's circle, pressuring them the former president to help out with Giuliani's legal bills, The New York Times reports.

Giuliani is also being sued for defamation by two voting machine companies for claiming that they helped orchestrate mass voter fraud in the 2020 election. Giuliani's advisers want the Trump campaign to tap into the $250 million it raised in the weeks after the election to help Giuliani with his legal expenses.

"I want to know what the GOP did with the quarter of $1 billion that they collected for the election legal fight," Bernard Kerik, the former New York City police commissioner, wrote on Twitter on Sunday.

Bernard B. Kerik
@BernardKerik
I want to know what the @GOP did with the quarter of $1 billion they collected for the election legal fight. Lawyers and law firms that didn’t do shit were paid lots of money and the people that worked their ass off, got nothing.

John Cardillo
@johncardillo
Now let's boo Romney's niece out of the GOP.
9:11 PM · May 2, 2021

Kerik added that "lawyers and law firms that didn't do" much work were paid handsomely, while those who worked hard "got nothing."

People familiar with the matter told the Times that Kerik made similar complaints to some of Trump's advisers in private.

"Some of Mr. Giuliani's supporters have blamed Mr. Trump's aides — and not the former president — for the standoff. However, people close to Mr. Trump said he has stridently refused to pay Mr. Giuliani," the Times reports.

Read the full report over at The New York Times.

https://www.rawstory.com/rudy-giuliani-legal-fees-trump/

 

One of the things that's so interesting about this is there is no client/attorney privilege if the client and attorney are involved in crimes. Just look back at all the communications and other evidence that came out of the feds raid on Michael Cohen. It was enough to make Trump an unindicted co conspirator that made hush money payments from the Oval Office.




Prosecutors Ask for Outside Lawyer to Sift Through Evidence Seized From Rudy Giuliani

The records seized from Rudy Giuliani’s home last week could contain all kinds of explosive information on his famous and infamous clients, but it seems not all of it will fall into the hands of federal investigators. According to The Washington Post, the Justice Department has requested that an independent lawyer review the evidence taken from Giuliani, and then hand over the specific information that’s relevant to their warrant while leaving out anything that’s covered by attorney-client privilege. The Post reports that prosecutors cited “the unusually sensitive privilege issues” related to the Giuliani case in making their request, and said that bringing in an outside lawyer—known in the legal profession as a special master—would help to create a “perception of fairness” as the probe moves forward. Agents took cellphones and laptops from Giuliani’s home and office last week as part of a probe to determine whether he violated foreign lobbying laws. He’s denied any wrongdoing and hasn’t been charged.

Read it at The Washington Post


https://www.thedailybeast.com/rudy-...ed-by-outside-lawyer-prosecutors-say?ref=home

 

Know what's really interesting?
stumbler has never explained what the $35,000 check was for.
He's been asked, but he ignores the question.
Shooter thinks its because stumbler enjoys the innuendo and doesn't want his lies exposed.

 

Well if anyone knows about lies and how to ignore questions it is you!

The forum liar.

Thinskin

 

More Rudy and his dealings in Ukraine.



Thinskin

 

Still scared of Trump...

 

If they quit posting about Trump all they have left is biden/harris.
That scares them more than Trump ever did.

 

According to today's Guardian, a search warrant would not have been executed unless there was already compelling evidence of major crimes.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/06/rudy-giuliani-doj-raid-trump-prosecutors

Thinskin

 

Much like the spying on the Trump campaign with the evidence of the Steele Dossier?

 

Have you been drinking?

Much of the Steele dossier was true.

Ttump is a Russian stooge and hillbilly is a Russian puppet.

Thinskin

 

Because hack fuck keeps repeating that it's true?...is that your defense tourist?

 

Patients grasshopper!

Thinskin

 

Patience rewarded or patients treated because cracks are appearing between uncles Rudy and Donald!

ttfn



Thinskin

 

You are right. Team Rudy is making a lot of noise about this. They are also pointing our Trump raised hundreds of millions of dollars for Stop the Steal and legal expenses but Rudy hasn't gotten any of it. So its sounding like either help he out here or I flip.





Giuliani Lays Off Staff as Legal Fights and Divorces Drain His Wallet, Says Report
CUTTING COSTS

Jamie Ross
News Correspondent

Published May. 06, 2021 6:29AM ET

Reuters/Jonathan Ernst


Over the past few days, Rudy Giuliani’s allies have been shamelessly begging Donald Trump to cover his former personal attorney’s legal fees as a federal investigation into his conduct gets more and more serious. Now, a new report from Politico has laid out the extent of Giuliani’s cashflow problems. The site reports the Trump ally has gotten rid of “several staffers and independent contractors” in recent weeks to help shrink his monthly outlays. The pressure has ramped up on Giuliani since federal agents raided his home and office last week, leaving him staring at a long and expensive legal fight. He’s already being sued for defamation by voting-machine company Dominion, and reportedly pays tens of thousands of dollars every month in alimony. In 2019, he butt-dialled an NBC News reporter and was heard complaining: “The problem is we need some money.” Giuliani didn’t comment on Politico’s report.

Read it at Politico

https://www.thedailybeast.com/giuli...ivorces-drain-his-wallet-says-report?ref=home

 

Whenever there are this many stories flying around all basically on the same topic we know its just the tip of the iceberg and behind the scenes fur must be flying.

Rudy Giuliani's allies return to beg Trump for money after he 'balked' at $20,000 a day legal bill





Rudy Giuliani (Screen cap).


https://www.rawstory.com/giuliani-legal-fees/



Trump believes it is not his 'call' to help Rudy Giuliani with his legal expenses: report




Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani on Fox News (screengrab)


On Wednesday, New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman said that former President Donald Trump believes it is not his "call" to help his longtime ally and personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani with his legal expenses now that he is under federal investigation.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-rudy-giuliani-legal-fees/




George Conway: Here's why Trump should fear Rudy Giuliani will turn on him





Rudy Giuliani appears on CNN (Screen cap).


Anti-Trump conservative George Conway on Thursday wrote an editorial for the Washington Post in which he broke down the dangers former President Donald Trump faces from his one-time personal attorney Rudy Giuliani.

Conway starts out by noting that federal investigators seem to be probing whether Giuliani's efforts to oust former ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch were done at the behest of foreign government officials who were paying him to lobby Trump.

Conway notes that Giuliani almost certainly doesn't want to go to jail if he's charged with violating Foreign Agents Registration Act, which means that he'll have to offer up something on Trump if we wants to avoid spending his elder years in prison.

"If Giuliani has anything to offer prosecutors to save himself, it would have to be Trump, the only bigger fish left," Conway writes. "And it was arguably criminal for the then-president to have used his official powers to try to coerce foreign officials into aiding his reelection campaign. In fact, Giuliani's admission that he wasn't conducting foreign policy, but merely helping Trump personally, is exactly what would make the scheme prosecutable."

In the end, Conway thinks that Giuliani may have the goods on Trump -- and the former president "just might want to rethink stiffing Giuliani on those [legal] bills."

Read the whole editorial here.

https://www.rawstory.com/rudy-giuliani-2652900848/