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  1. imported__2355

    imported__2355 Ungodly Intelligent And Attractive

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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-or...-happens-children-shelters-now-214127748.html

    Trump signs order to 'address' separations, but it won't change the situation for children in shelters now

    Hunter Walker
    Hunter Walker
    Yahoo NewsJune 20, 2018

    WASHINGTON — After widespread outrage over his policy of separating children from their parents who crossed the border illegally, President Trump signed an executive order on Wednesday to “address family separations.” The order directs the Department of Homeland Security to “maintain custody of alien families” to the “extent permitted by law” when resources are available.

    Democrats and a growing number of Republicans had called on Trump to issue such an order, but for weeks he had insisted that the policy was required by law and could only be changed by Congress. He blamed Democrats, who are in the minority in both houses, for not acting on the matter.

    However, the order won’t make a difference for thousands of children who have already been taken from their families.


    The spate of child separations resulted from a “zero tolerance” policy that was announced by Attorney General Jeff Sessions in April and enacted the following month. Last week, officials announced that between April 19 and May 31 about 1,995 children were separated at the U.S. border from adults they had traveled with. By treating all illegal border crossings as crimes — a break with previous administrations — the policy meant that adults would be sent to jail and that the children who entered with them would be separated them from. While Trump suggested his order would end separations going forward, an official confirmed to Yahoo News that the children already in custody would not be immediately reunited with their families.

    Kenneth Wolfe, a spokesperson for the Department of Health and Human Service’s Administration for Children and Families (ACF), said the “process will proceed as usual” for the minors currently in the agency’s program. The department operates 100 shelters for migrant children in 17 states. Wolfe did not respond to a request for comment about how many children are currently in custody who have been separated from their parents.

    Trump’s order states that it is “the policy of this Administration to maintain family unity, including by detaining alien families together where appropriate and consistent with law and available resources.” Agencies are instructed to keep families intact during legal proceedings when children enter the U.S. accompanied by someone with whom they have a “legal parent-child relationship.” Officials are given some discretion in implementing the order, subject to the availability of resources such as suitable housing and to a determination that keeping the family together would not “pose a risk to the child’s welfare.”

    The order also calls for cases involving families to be fast tracked so they can avoid lengthy detentions. It also directs the Department of Defense and other agencies to identify additional resources the government can use to house families together. In the months leading up to the announcement of the child separation facility, the government awarded hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts to companies to build and operate shelters where immigrant children could be held. Those shelters may need to be modified to hold adults.


    Amid the outcry over the policy, which was fueled by pictures and recordings of toddlers crying for their parents, and parents who couldn’t find out what happened to their children, Trump and other top officials made a series of conflicting and untrue statements about the separations.

    Trump repeatedly falsely blamed the situation on Democrats even though they have never pushed for a policy that would call for family separations. The administration also denied the policy was intended to deter potential illegal immigrants with the prospect of family separations, even though White House chief of staff John Kelly explicitly said he was “considering exactly that” in a 2017 television interview when he was homeland security secretary. The administration also blamed the policy on the failure of Congress to make a deal on immigration reform. And the White House also suggested a 1997 federal court decision known as the Flores agreement that requires the government to release immigrant children to families “without unnecessary delay” and to keep them in the “least restrictive conditions” possible prevented the administration from keeping families in custody together.

    The executive order Trump signed on Wednesday belies his claims that he was powerless to reverse the policy. Nevertheless, the order referenced the administration’s frustration with Congress’ inability to make an immigration deal. It framed the measure as “affording Congress an opportunity to address family separation” on a permanent basis. The order also directs Attorney General Jeff Sessions to “promptly file a request with the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California” to modify the Flores agreement to allow the secretary of homeland security to “detain families together” during their legal proceedings “under present resource constraints.”

    As he signed the order in the Oval Office, Trump said he disliked the family separations and suggested they would end.

    “I consider it to be a very important executive order. It’s about keeping families together while at the same time being sure that we have a very powerful, very strong border,” Trump said, adding, “So we’re going to have strong, very strong borders, but we’re going to keep the families together. I didn’t like the sight or the feeling of families being separated.”

    Update [6:31 p.m.]: This piece was updated with the HHS spokesperson’s comment about the children currently in custody.
     
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    2. wooffy
      I say just put the kids in the jail with their parents together with the murderers rapists and pedophiles. This will be the biggest incentive to stop them from coming to the USA. By the way this was sarcastic.
       
      wooffy, Jul 9, 2018
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      put them together on the bus and send them back - problem solved
       
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  2. shootersa

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    What really fixes the problem is to

    Remove the incentives to come here illegally in the first place
    Adjudicate cases with urgency

    The real criminal and inhumane problem is that it takes years to either deport or naturalize these illegal imigrants.

    They should be deciding these cases in months, not years.
     
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      We have similar problems in Canada. I see illegals giving their countrymen a bad name. And, considering how much it costs to pay the `coyote', why don't they apply for entry? and save many thousands while they wait, and then have this for startup money in the USA, or is this too simple? Am I missing something?
       
      Soylent Green, Aug 10, 2018
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  3. stumbler

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    What about the people, businesses, and industries that give them jobs shootersa? What should we do about them?
     
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    1. tenguy
      Nothing, unless they are liberals. Then we should shoot them.
       
      tenguy, Jun 21, 2018
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      .
       
      shootersa, Aug 10, 2018
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  4. stumbler

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    Let me prove just how phony the Trump supporters and even worse the phonier conservatives really are. And you will be able to see it for yourselves when they can't and won't even answer the most basic questions.

    What does Trump's executive order say?

    Does it tend "zero tolerance"?

    Is it within established laws as dictated by the courts?

    And what will it do for the 2,500 kids already in custody?

    And if they cannot even answer 4 basic questions then you know.
     
    1. tenguy
      Been answered numerous times, y’all just don’t read them
       
      tenguy, Jun 21, 2018
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      .
       
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  5. shootersa

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    Stumbler has read and commented on shooters plan to revamp immigration previously.

    He knows that the first step in shooters plan is to take away the incentive to come here illegally, starting with no jobs.

    This country already has a program called E-verifile. It should be mandatory for every job, with Arizona type penalties for employers.

    But of course stumbler ignores that cause.....shooter
     
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  6. stumbler

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    See I told you so This ...



    ... has nothing to do with this.

     
    1. shootersa
      See, and you have the same problem Anon does; you assume you are so fucking important that anyone is obligated to hop right to and answer your inane questions.

      Your total lack of credibility and your obvious hate for all things Trump, (cause ............. Trump), disqualifies you from consideration as important.
       
      shootersa, Jun 21, 2018
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  8. deleted user 777 698

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    The problem will never be "fixed" until the Democrats WANT to fix it. In case you have been living in a cave, President Trump and the Republicans offered the Democrats a bill that would take care of the "Dreamers" that was even better than they demanded. As you all know the Democrats rejected the bill.

    They have no desire whatever to help the illegal immigrants. They only want to exploit them as they have exploited the black population here in the U.S.
     
    1. submissively speaking
      From what I’ve read pretty much everywhere, it isn’t that they had a problem with the bill addressing this issue. The problem is that he tried to get agreement to pay for the wall, which of course he swore you wouldn’t have to do.

      So, you know, a protection of taxpayers, a holding the artist of the deal to his word, that kind of thing. No?
       
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    He signs an executive order ending something his administration has been practicing. And you know what? If he really wanted to fix things, he would be meeting with both parties, not just the GOP behind closed doors. Since they control both houses and the White House, let's put the blame where it really belongs.

    Oh, and Smitty? Don't begin to speak for the Democrats. You stereo type and you really know nothing.
     
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      “They “ do not have control of the Senate when rules require 60 votes.
       
      tenguy, Jun 21, 2018
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      I didn't say that it doesn't take 60 votes - but they do control both houses. Perhaps if they would invite participation in a bipartisan plan, everyone just might play in the same sandbox.
       
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    WSJ editors bash Trump for crowing about fixing ‘a problem of his own creation’ with immigrant families

     
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    Trump didn't tell these people to cross the border with their children illegally... Trump didn't make the laws that have you bleeding puke liberals so ass hurt...

    The fact is, these children that are in US custody are being taken care of very well. These children are now being fed properly, they are being seen by a Doctor and for many of them, it's the first time a Doctor has ever looked at them.

    Their shelter, clothing and all needs are being taken care of. Something their parents were obviously unable to do....
     
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    Well, but lets not forget, if Clinton had won the throne, we'd be bringing these people in, releasing them and letting them stay until ................... well, until deporting them would be a hundred times more difficult.

    And providing them with all the public support they would need. You know, free medical care, free education, free medical care, free legal aid, free medical care ..................

    Stuff our own kids in foster care get. Sort of.
     
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    I don't agree. Old fashioned, check in the mail, welfare ended in the 90s, for the most part. In its place we have TANF (temporary aid for needy families) which is TEMPORARY and is only available to US citizens and immigrants who are here lawfully. The same goes for SNAP, Medicaid, etc. A handful of states do provide some state funded assistance to some immigrants who otherwise would not qualify for federal aid, but not enough to live on.

    https://aspe.hhs.gov/basic-report/overview-immigrants-eligibility-snap-tanf-medicaid-and-chip

    If they want to cut down on illegal immigration, they need to come down HARD on the employers who hire them, the landlords who rent them apartments, etc. Until Congress passes those laws, the people will keep coming. Write your Senator and Representative about it, but don't hold your breath.

     
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      And in the meantime, the growers in FL can't find workers because the citizens would rather collect from the government and even immigrants who are here legally are afraid to work because ICE might show up for a traffic ticket from 20 years ago.
       
      HisBabyGirl, Jun 21, 2018
    2. tenguy
      Guess they’ll have to raise the pay to pickers. Isn’t that a goal of progressives?
       
      tenguy, Jun 21, 2018
    3. HisBabyGirl
      Farmers and growers don't make enough, as it is.
       
      HisBabyGirl, Jun 22, 2018
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    4. tenguy
      Does that make okay to hire illegals at sub-minimum wage?
       
      tenguy, Jun 22, 2018
    5. tenguy
      BTW, checking a claim that 2% of the illegals work farm labor and that 41% are on welfare. Politifact found that the 2% figure is close to accurate, but the 41% is not. The reason? While the 41% figure is low, they do not consider SNAP (food stamps) and Medicaid, welfare. If not welfare, what are they?
       
      tenguy, Jun 22, 2018
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    Well, but if they go to the emergency room they get treated, not turned away. And they do NOT pay for the services.
    They can get some aid because they were "caught and released".

    You and I agree, severe penalties for companies hiring Illegal immigrants, as well as for the Illegal immigrant would go a long way towards stopping illegal immigration.

    The problem is, catch and release gives them semi legal status, as in a green card, which means they can legally apply for and accept work.

    That needs to be changed.
     
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    2. tenguy
      Hurling language? WTF are you talking about? Would you prefer that I said "screw" the illegals or "shaft" the illegals, they're all part of the present day euphemisms.

      Point is that while they're screaming to raise the minimum wage for citizens, they're perfectly all right with putting illegals into jobs that are borderline slave wages. Did you know that it ia illegal to employ aliens at wages below the prevailing wage for citizens for the same job?

      Which is it that you want?

      Be sure to give an answer that stumbles would like.
       
      tenguy, Jun 22, 2018
    3. submissively speaking
      No, I didn’t know. It makes sense, though, and sounds like good legislation.

      You’ve pointed out what those pesky progressives are keening and wailing about, with the accompanying derision. Got it.

      How do you fix the problem as it stands today? Is it possible without huge spikes in agricultural cost? Without a major collapse of the agricultural market as a whole?
       
    4. tenguy
      The claim that illegal immigrants are critical to the food growing industry is false, low wage workers are important to some factory farms in order to maximize profits. Around 2% of the illegal immigrant population are employed in that industry, this equates to approximately 200,000 out of 11,000,000 illegals in the US. There are 6.1 million unemployed citizens in the US, how difficult would it be to place some of them in those farm jobs?
       
      tenguy, Jun 22, 2018
    5. HisBabyGirl
      Minimum wage of $25/hour? Sign me up! I make a pretty good buck for what I do, but not that much money. If they're going to pay farm workers and fast food workers $25/hour, then why the hell did I go to college to learn accounting?
       
      HisBabyGirl, Jun 22, 2018
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    6. tenguy
      That’s what was being said in the minimum wage thread last year.
       
      tenguy, Jun 23, 2018
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    There is most certainly a problem with them working.
    They come here knowing all they have to do is clear the border and say asylum please, and they are good to stay for years.

    NO WORK MEANS NO WORK.
     
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    Why are the liberals hiring illegals? Is it because they rarely practice what they preach?
     
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    With a verifiable visa process growers can legally bring workers into the country and will be responsible for them leaving when the visa expires.

    The cost of visas, transport, medical care and so forth would increase cost, but not by that much.

    Theoretically, with lowered demand on government services we would see a reduction in taxes, but then the govt. Robbers would get involved....
     
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    If they wouldn't bring there kids to the border , and throw them across.
    They would not get separated.
    Now The problem has been solved they all get arrested together ,the whole entire family gets arrested.
    Perfect now the family is not separated.
    Now the Liberals will get the blame for separating the family ,but nobody will report on that.


    Here's good one For you , cross your whole family into Mexico set up camp and see how long Mexico allows you to stay there.
    Try this with five family members, let 30,000 families. See what Mexico , or any other country had to say .
    Let tell you so you don't have to look it up .
    They will tell you get back where you came from now .
     
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    And once again the Republlican prove they cannot govern. Even when they control both houses of congress and the presidency.

    Republicans push vote for key immigration bill into next week

     
    1. tenguy
      Huh, postponing a bill while they study it more closely shows a lack of governance? Are you smoking that bad weed again? It shows the exact opposite.

      BTW, why don't you acknowledge that the Republicans do not control the Senate, on bills that require 60 votes?
       
      tenguy, Jun 22, 2018
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    russian whore aka fisted lady meania skanks choice of clothing while visiting the kids her shit bag of a husband is locking up and denying basic human dignities only serves to prove that she has no class nor decency not even base fucking humanity
    [​IMG] giving that she has no shame i will finally do what was asked long ago
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    1. tenguy
      What was it that was asked?

      BTW, that raincoat was in very poor taste, someone should have pointed that out to her before she went out with it on. However, since it was she that the unsupporters claim changed Trumps's mind on the family separation issue, isn't obvious that she does care about those kids.
       
      tenguy, Jun 22, 2018
    2. ridgerunner
      that skank didnt change trumps mind in the fucking least voter outrage and hos own party pointing to him as the supreme asshole did
      the moment he figured out that the party and nation were against him over his policies he decided he had to stop
      he will do the same fucking thing when the shit hits the fan over china and north korea, you know the trade war he started with china that is damaging trumps "agreement" with the asian tiny hands fat baby man egomaniac
      the first nasty russian cunt wore that rain coat to prove that she and mister potato head have absolutely no respect for people at all
       
      ridgerunner, Jun 23, 2018
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      What a warm fuzzy idiot you are.
       
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      OH! the first lady how nice! I'm sur e those Supporting Trump are quick to say to their wives and moms why cant you be like the first lady, I suppose the school kids hear this from their teachers every day. How proud we are of our first Lady, I wonder5 how many hundred guys in Prague, are showing pics to their frriends saying "Oh yeah she give great head!"
       
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